Price Increase

[MsSearch]

:eek: Saw this when I checked my PositionTech account today...

Effective 12/17/01 URL substitution change:
URLs may be freely substituted during the first 30 days of subscription. Substitutions thereafter will be limited to within the domain.
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Effective 11/17/01 Pricing for the Search/Submit program will be as follows.

URLs 2 - 1,000 - $25.00 each

--Just an FYI

[ihelpyou]

?? I am surprised.

[markymark]

I think someone (Barry ?) warned us of a price hike, but that is harsh. The substitution only within the domain thing is even worse - I am forever messing around with poorly performing client pages in this way. I just substitute one for another.

Does this apply to other Ink. partners like ineedhits for example. Anyone know ?

[ihelpyou]

It sure does hit you where it hurts. If one has lots of client pages they are managing, I can see the dollars go sky high now. Either that, or you are stuck with the pages paid for and simply have to cough up more to get more pages in. :eek:

[MsSearch]

There is no mention of this on the ineedhits website but maybe ineedhits.com will have more information...

[MsSearch]

Doug..i didn't see your previous post...i have been pretty happy paying $12/url...but $25/URL...

[ihelpyou]

Wow. I thought I had a good reason not to pay before,.... now I have a better reason. That is steep. Not only the actual price, but the fact you cannot substitute. wow.

[MakeMeTop]

Yes - I knew about this but was asked not to divulge the new prices until they were officially announced. It is a hefty price increase (100%+) for me and has been reflected in new pricing for my plans. If you have the chance and you have pages coming up for renewal in the next 30 days - renew now (before 17th) and you will get them in for the next year at the old price. You can renew 30 days in advance - do it if you can!

The 30 day restriction on changing URLs is to stop spammers who were removed from the index on paid inclusion from just changing one set of paid spam pages to another lot for free on a different domain. I actually don't have too much objection to this as I don't do multiple domains for clients. This doesn't prevent you from changing pages - as long as they are in the same domain.

I am not happy about this - but with the very large volume of traffic that Ink drives for my sites have little option but to swallow it. :(

Yes - this is an Ink hike apparantly - so should be reflected across all Ink partners - with slight differences.

[JuniorHarris]

Yikes!~ That is a pretty steep increase...is there no end to the money hungry mongers? I guess once you are hooked, it is just a matter of reeling you in! Now all we need is DMOZ to start charging...after all I'm sure they have overhead expenses as well! :rolleyes:

I can appreciate them fighting spam, but not at a cost for the rest of us! If spammers are simply rotating different domains, then cut off the problem at the source by removing the subscription account!~

Thanks for the heads up Barry, and the great advice about renewing any listings prior to the increase being effective.

[ihelpyou]

Now JH, they could not simply remove the source like that as then they would lose all the money. They would rather penalize all the honest folks instead. :rolleyes:

[MsSearch]

Just an FYI--The price increase takes effect on 11/28/01 NOT 11/17/01

[Advisor]

While we're on this subject, can someone who uses the paid Inktomi program tell me if when you change your URL that you submitted to them, do they delete the old URL from their index?

Thanks!

Jill

[MsSearch]

I'm not quite sure but I have been substituting URL's today. I will keep my eyes on it and see if they are dropped from their database.

I know those pages do not get refreshed every 48 hours but I am not sure if they are dropped completely/deleted from the Inktomi database.

I will see what happens over the next few days....

[Advisor]

Thanks, MS! I've been trying to get an answer to this question since this paid inclusion thing began!

Jill

[MsSearch]

Actually, I just found one page that i substituted out a while ago....but haven't made any changes to that page since i put another page in its place (in my listings of Paid inclusion)...This page that i dropped from my Inktomi Paid Inclusion list is still in the Inktomi database. Today, I changed the title and meta description slightly to see when and if Inktomi will refresh it.

Before I go further and state that pages will remain in the Inktomi database after a substitution, I'd like to see what happens to my other pages (i substituted about 10 new ones in today...)

[markymark]

Substituted pages are removed from the paid inclusion program and if they haven't been spidered from elsewhere will fall out of the index.

[ineedhits]

Just to confirm with you all...

1. All Inktomi Search/Submit partners will be changing their prices on the 28th Nov to...

First URL: $39.00
URLs 2-1000: $25.00 each

2. In regards to the post above... substituted URLs are dropped from the Inktomi Database shortly after they are substituted (not immediately - there is a slight over lay in time).

I hope this info helps.

I will look around for other questions I can answer :)

[ihelpyou]

Welome to the forums Clay! :hi:

You said that Url's are dropped from the index once substituted. Okay, if a page is already in the index and one wants to simply make sure it is spidered all the time, if one substitutes for another page a little later, then the page will drop out,... correct? Then no one should ever submit a page the paid way which is already in the index.

[ineedhits]

Hi iHelpYou,

Thanks for the welcome.

Sorry for the delay in my reply - I am always busy so I will be only able to check once a week or so :(

Your question is a good one. I would guess that Inktomi would have a rule so that in these situations the page still remained in the index - I will ask our Inktomi contact.

Cheers,
Clay :cheers:

[Advisor]

Originally posted by ineedhits
Your question is a good one. I would guess that Inktomi would have a rule so that in these situations the page still remained in the index - I will ask our Inktomi contact.I've asked this question a zillion times since the program started and never seem to get an answer. In fact it's one reason why I've never used the paid program and won't until I'm assured that urls won't be deleted. All my free URLs stay in fine, why pay so that they can get noticed and perhaps deleted when I stop paying? Makes no sense to me, that's for sure!

Jill