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Farhan
23-07-2001, 05:03/05:03AM
HI TO ALL!!
My boss has told me to use Godado.com in our marketing plan of our e-commerce website. Yes we have a target market in Europe, can someone tell me about Godado.com? is it worth paying for clicks there? and where does it stands in comparison with Goto.com

ihelpyou
23-07-2001, 08:58/08:58AM
Do not know. Have never heard of them before now. I noticed that the .com resolved to .tv

I wonder why the boss does not want to go with a better known ppc?

Farhan
23-07-2001, 11:21/11:21AM
dear administrator,
can u please name some ppc's engines for Europe

ihelpyou
23-07-2001, 11:26/11:26AM
I do not know. Why can't he just go with GoTo who is worldwide I believe?

Hope
23-07-2001, 12:28/12:28PM
While I have never used Godado.com, I have been told it is very good.

http://www.payperclicksearchengines.com/ Has a list of European based PPC. I hope it helps you out.

ihelpyou
23-07-2001, 12:33/12:33PM
Nice link Hope! :up:

Hope
23-07-2001, 12:41/12:41PM
Thanks Doug,

Nathan Power runs the site. He does a real good job of keeping it up to date. He tries to be objective when reviewing them.

Mel
23-07-2001, 13:16/01:16PM
Hi Farhan:

A quick comparasion of Godado vs GoTo UK for some popular search terms show that Godado costs less than GoTo UK in a ratio of about 1:5.

This says to me that many entities are willing to spend five times more to be listed on GoTo UK for a particualr search term. But the bottom line is how many hits and what conversion rate? This is an area you might want to look into.

RDPorter
22-09-2001, 09:14/09:14AM
Hi All,
Would it be right and proper to announce the existance of other uk ppc search engines that I own, here in this forum and thread?

ihelpyou
22-09-2001, 09:20/09:20AM
Welcome to the forums RDPorter! :hi:

Thank you for asking your question. Yes you can. It pertains to the thread so it is acceptable.

RDPorter
22-09-2001, 09:52/09:52AM
Hi Doug,
Cheers,
OK,
Our main PPC engine is business & opportunity related at

1, http://www.simplesiteUK.com

Includes Free Listings, Affiliate Benefits and Co-Brand Opportunities. Your listing also appears on ActiveIncome.

2, http://www.fmnl.net

Just launched targeting sites relating to Women, which is a subject sadly lacking in the PPC world. Includes the same benfits as above.

3, http://www.ActiveIncome.com

Re-launched as a PPC for high quality Affiliate Programs and Opportunities. Includes results from simplesiteUK.com and Open Directory.

I do require beta testers for 2 others that will be launched by the end of this weekend, and I`d like any input from the forum describing ways I may be able to improve the sites that I`ve mentioned.

God Bless,

Richard

RDPorter
23-09-2001, 06:44/06:44AM
Hi Guy`s
Announcing the launch of -

www.AnaDom.com

The Search Engine For Religions, Beliefs, Faiths and Practices.

Any user beta testers are welcome and will be given a $50.00 account, gratis, for relevant sites, although I need only 2 as the engine is already proving extremely popular.

I require also a number of member/affiliate testers.

All the benefits of the preivously mentioned PPC`s.

Regards

ihelpyou
23-09-2001, 08:14/08:14AM
hey Richard. Please do not post things that kind of look like ads. You may simply post a Url but you do not have to describe the site. Very not necessary. If we wish to go look, your site should describe what it is about. I do not want any ads in here at all.

A Url is all that is needed and all that is wanted in here.

RDPorter
23-09-2001, 08:35/08:35AM
Hi Doug,
Bit confused here..
That`s why I asked

>Would it be right and proper to announce the existance of other uk ppc search engines that I own, here in this forum and thread?<

And, after your acceptance/confirmation posted urls and descriptions without recourse.

Sorry to have done wrong but I thought you said

>Thank you for asking your question. Yes you can. It pertains to the thread so it is acceptable.<


Any how, I do apologise outright, please except my sincererity, I would`nt have asked permission otherwise.

RDPorter
23-09-2001, 12:54/12:54PM
Hi Doug & All Members of this Forum -

sellingcircle.co.uk

(clipped, so it`s 2 clicks not one!)


I do need a number of beta testers as previously stated, I`m not promoting here, I`m looking for input from people genuinely interested in helping me provide substantial relevant information via the ppc route.

In addition & in reality I have over 40,000 opt-ins, under various lists, I would never need to promote via forums, plus being a long time senior menber of geektalk I`d be out of self-context if I did. I`m looking for your input, is all.


Bob Bless

ihelpyou
23-09-2001, 15:13/03:13PM
Yes. That is what I mean. No descriptions are needed. Again, if a member wishes to view your site, they will click on your url to view it. The description should be on your site. You do not have to describe what your site is about.

These forums are one of the few who allow members to post Url's and also have a signature file with their Url. That is more than enough.

Simply say here is another UK PPC search engine and post the url. That is all that is needed.
Thank you.

I want to add here that you are much better off to build lots of traffic first before charging someone for a listing Richard. There are MANY PPC engines out there that are trying to charge, and then the site gets VERY little traffic. Not saying you do not get any traffic, I am just saying that you would be wise to have every listing free first, so as not to get your visitors mad at you for charging and then delivering just a trickle of visitors.

Also, please simply post all your Urls in one post. No need to make a separate post for each Url.

RDPorter
23-09-2001, 15:49/03:49PM
Hi Doug,
Thank you for the comments.

I agree with the free listing angle AND that is precisely why all of the mentioned PPC`s offer a complementary $5.00 opening account with no need to upgrade.

Knowing, as you do, that this is the best way to build traffic.

simplesiteUK receives 4,-5,000 page views a day, and I agree that this traffic was built from the ability to list for free relevant sites within this resource as long as 2 years ago.

Blue
24-09-2001, 01:32/01:32AM
Hi RDPorter, and welcome to the forums. :hi:

I think it will be good for us all to have someone that is "on the inside", so to speak, of a PPC engine. I'm sure that you will have lot's of valuable advice for those here that are interested in PPC (without, of course, revealing your trade secrets ;) .

I know that some like PPC's and some don't, but I think we all can learn at least something.

I'll start off the questions with:

1.) What advice do you have for a "newbie" to PPC as far as determining how to figure the "what to bid/ROI" angle?

2.) Should one use the same criteria when determining what the best keywords/phrases are as one would with a non-PPC engine?

3.) CAN one bid on a key "phrase"?

RDPorter
24-09-2001, 09:09/09:09AM
Hi Blue,
Good to be here.

I`ve a number of resources listed that will help anyone determine an approach to keyword bidding, including a number of free e-books, in particular Barbara Chick`s Step-by-step short cut tutorial, all at

www.simplesiteuk.com/whtn.htm

Tip
A very cool system I use for checking keyword/phrase popularity, relevancy and useage, before commiting myself is by creating a keyword ad at

https://adwords.google.com

Selecting the keyowrds and phrases I`d like to use for the particular site/ad and have the system give me estimates based on the google keyword/ad/search db.
Try using spelling & gramatical mistakes using this system and you`ll soon see other possibilities arise.

Don`t go for a top ten bid, someone with a bigger budget will always outbid you, one reason why some popular keyword bids just keep on rising, go for a top twenty/thirty.

I personally would use the very same keywords in my tags as I would when bidding for keywords at PPC`s, where possible, without breaking the above.

I would not use a PPC with a catch all facility as this brings many non-relevant results/traffic.

Check traffic using Alexa before committing to any PPC`s as most are very new and have limited traffic and rely on bidded results from other engines to provide a click thru income, it`s rather transparent, but not obvious at 1st sight.

I`ve made it possible to bid on keyword sentences/phrases/words at all our PPC`s, I`m sure it`s possible at most other PPC`s.


Richard

Spider Man
24-09-2001, 12:27/12:27PM
Great info. I liked that google bit so much I thought i'd put together a quick tool for myself to extract keywords from my pages and see how often those words were searched on. I'm in a happy mood so I figured I share..Here (http://www.goodlookingcooking.co.uk/adwords.htm)

Mel
24-09-2001, 12:41/12:41PM
Hey Chris - Great little tool. Any way to use it for multiple keyword phrases?

Spider Man
24-09-2001, 16:46/04:46PM
Hi Mel,

I've just made a few changes. You can now require it to give you details on keywords you specify and also on phrases. It's also quicker.

It's just a quick hash together program. There's no automatic extraction of phrases because I don't have time to write the code...maybe sometime (I ripped the code to determine the commonest keywords out of an old program I wrote).

Blue
24-09-2001, 19:42/07:42PM
Thanks to both RD and Chris. :cheers: