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[cliff2004]

All of my keywords are on my home page a few times in the beginning of my home page, sprinkled though the rest of the site and more frequent toward the end again like on the beginning. I have never put much effort in to optimizing the other pages but am considering doing that. However I have what might be a problem. While I can use many of the keywords I used on the home page there are a lot that I can’t and make the text sound good. Is there a way to get those pages to come up on searches for the keywords on my home page that are not on the other pages and if so what is it.

[grungee]

They say a single page should only target 2 keyword/phrases and 3 at the most. Maybe it would be better to make more pages and have the new pages target less keywords but more concentrated?

Just my thoughts?

[Danny]

I agree with Grungee

[Connie]

I agree with Grungee and Danny.

[Blue]

I agree as well.

Consider:

The more focused pages you have, each targeting only a few keyword phrases, then you will have more pages in the SERP's (and highly placed if you SEO them well), and therefore more entry points you have for searchers to be able to find and get to your site on highly targeted phrases.

It's most definitely a good strategy.

[cliff2004]

as freaqently I have heard about have many keywords on each page. Is there a stratigy for that or does having many keyowrs on each page mean anyting in some special situation?

If those who believe as all of you do that a few keywords per page are right then I have a might have a problem. As a beginner in this I concluded or came to an understanding that the keywords with the most usage on the interest by surfers according to wordtracker and the like were the best choices. At that time I had about 15 keyword on my home page and 10 on other pages. Then I realized this could be putting me in a position were I had to much competition for these words making it harder to get high ranking so using those same keywords I did a search using the kei feature in wordtracker to find keywords that were alternative keywords that had less competition.. I keep the original ones an used them and added some of the new ones but of course I can only do this on my home page because that is the only page broad enough to do that with.

Many of my original keywords were ok as far as competition goes so they will be on the pages other than my home page, which will at least keep the number of keywords on those pages lower. . Having shared all that what I want to know is if we are to use as little as 3 keywords on each page how do we have enough variation of out main keyword to do well since not everyone will use out main keyword to search with and can we still include a few keywords that are less competitive than out main ones. To me it still looks like a lot of keywords are needed. Please explain.

[Blue]

You are right. A lot of keyword phrases are needed. And those alternative keyword phrases you selected using wordtrackers KEI feature will most likely work for you.

However, you need to spread them out over many pages, focusing each page on only 2 or 3 keyword phrases.

For example, let's say you've discovered a total of 30 keyword phrases. You've also figured out which of those would be your best 3 keyword phrases. What you should do is spread them all out, in say, sets of 2 or 3, over approximately 10 - 15 pages, with the best set of 3 being on your home page. All the other sets should be on inner pages you create specifically for those sets.

[Katti]

Blue! Now it's me asking for an explnation again!

You're talking about sets of 2 or 3 over approx 10-15 pages.
What do you meen by a set?
And what do you meen by inner pages created specifically for those sets?

The site I'm working on right now is based on approx 10 pages all together and some of them only contains simple information and hardly no text. So that leaves me with few pages left to write text on. But for the content I need to include I don't need more pages. Is that good or bad?!
(I'll ad the www in my profile, even though it's still very much under construction.)

/Katti

[Blue]

Hi Katti!

Let me break it down further:

Let's say you've done the research and come up with a total of 30 keyword phrases.

Some of these will produce more highly targeted traffic than others.

Take the best 2 or three keyword phrases (a single "set") and focus your home page on those.

The next most important set would go on the first inner page.

The third set would go on the third inner page.

And so on until you've created approximately 10 or 15 pages, using all your sets of keyword phrases.

Each page you create is SEO'd to it's own set. There may be some overlap but that's only natural.

[Katti]

OK, then I get it when it comes to my most important keyphrases.

I wont have that many primary keyphrases.
On the other hand, I will have a lot of secondary keyphrases. And I was thinking about adding them all in a nice informative text. (You gave me some input on another thread.)

I'll give you some examples.

The camping ground is situated near the golf course where the Solheim Cup will be held next time. If I write that it's walking distance to the Solheim Cup golf course from the camping. That's a good keyphrase for those who will look for accommodation when all the hotels will be over booked.

In the same way I would like to mention that the camping is close to where the singer of Roxette lives. Etc.etc. (Wow, that was a good way to give me free publicity here on the forum;-)

All these things are good keyphrases, but not good enough to give them each one separate page.
And I can think of at least ten (secondary) keyphrase like that. But I want to put them all in one page.

Will that give the keyphrases lower importance when it comes to SEO?

/Katti

[Connie]

Katti based on your example I think that is fine. Just work those phrases in naturally so thay make sense to your readers (visitors).

[Katti]

Thanks!

I feel now that all my questions are about keywords and phrases. But I must say that all the input I've been given from you all makes me think differently in various aspects and I'm revising many things.
One thought leads to another, which leads to another and so on.

I'm learning a lot, and I know it will be useful to me, not only with the website I'm doing right now, but also in my future working life. Interesting!

/Katti

[g1smd]

There are things that you know, these are the knowns; and things that you don't know, these are the unknowns.

There are things that you know you know, these are the known knowns; and things that you know that you don't know; these are the known unknowns.

Finally there are the things that you don't know that you don't know: these are the unknown unknowns.

Got it?

[Katti]

Now I know... ;)