90s style spam methods

[WebSavvy]

I use AOL and am tired of the constant problems with it. Lately (for the last week -- every single day) it's been locking up when I get offline and causing system crashes. So ... I went to Google and did a search for:
nationwide internet service providers (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nationwide+internet+service+providers&btnG=Google+Search)

SERPs returned 1-10 of about 54,300,000
This site is #9 => http://www.totacc.com/

Go to the page and scroll down. Look at all that very small text that's just one shade up from the background color. Nothing but pure SPAM.

At the bottom of that tone on tone text, there's a small link there to this page: http://www.totacc.com/classified.htm Filled with more text one shade off the color of the page.

Even more: Visit this page and scroll down -> http://www.totacc.com/Automobile.htm

Why do pages like this still rank in Google and have PR if Google's algo is supposedly so good at sniffing them out now?

[nuthin]

probably just because of the age http://whois.domaintools.com/totacc.com and linkage factor.

they would place more importance on those things than some spammy small text on a page.

you would hope they would just somehow devalue all that crap, but unfortunately if your an authority domain you can do pretty much whatever you like and prosper on Google.

[ihelpyou]

Actually, we don't know if that text is not being ignored anyway.

The thing with that site is this; If a visitor found that site, how long would they stay there? That site is butt ugly. Anyone with a brain would not give it the time of day anyway as far as any business goes, so it really makes no difference what position it has on any phrase at all. If it's a directory, and that is questionable, what moron would submit to it?

So bottom line, it makes no diff about what it's doing. But I also agree that spam is sooooo damn silly and very ignorant. Google should actually ban the site and sites listed in that thing as well, just because of the ugliness factor. :D

[nuthin]

Originally posted by ihelpyou
Actually, we don't know if that text is not being ignored anyway.

I know it's only a 5th page placement but http://www.google.com/search?q=Arizona+isp&hl=en&lr=&start=40&sa=N shows that they are counting it.

the thing is, sites that are old, established and have old links simply dominate Google.. even with mis-guided "stale, ugly techniques" these web sites have.

I see alot of sites with little keyword text all the time.. which is obviously just there for the search engines, but Google really does just value age of a site and links.. and then once you have those 2 in-check, your content kicks in. (even if the content is "spammy little text")..

makes no difference to Google, you'll still be shown because you have got your domain up to the authority status or passed the certain "threshold" that is needed for your site to rank.