Finding keywords

[scriptillusion]

Can someone help me, i need to find a way to get the highest paying adsense can you help?

[Connie]

Hi scriptillusion and welcome. :hi:

Not sure I understand your question so my comments may not be appropriate.

If your looking to build a site for Adsense I don't think you will get any help here.

If you have something else in mind perhaps you should rephrase your question.

[tonys]

Connie....

There are many websites built to generate advertising revenue. Print magazines are generally created for that purpose. Adsense is a source of ad revenue. What's wrong with building a website to create Adsense revenue?

Obviously there is a glut of scraper sites that provide no meaningly content substance. Those are worthless. But there are many, many sites that provide good quality informative content that are not ethically out-of-bounds to include Adsense as a profit incentive.

So why would you say..."If your looking to build a site for Adsense I don't think you will get any help here." Are you blanketing all Adsense sites with the same "brush" assuming that they are all unethical?

[Connie]

There are many websites built to generate advertising revenue. Print magazines are generally created for that purpose. Adsense is a source of ad revenue. What's wrong with building a website to create Adsense revenue?
Nothing wrong with that but show me a few.
Obviously there is a glut of scraper sites that provide no meaningly content substance. Those are worthless.
Most sites that I see fall into this category. I can tell pretty quickly if the site was built for Adsense, or if that was an add on after the site was built.

[tonys]

Hi Connie....

I'll be glad to PM you an example.

[Connie]

Pm me. I'm getting ready to quit for the night, but will be glad to look at your examples tomorrow.

[Blue]

...build a site for Adsense ...
...build a site for Adsense ...
...build a site for Adsense ...

Hmmm....

C'mon tonys!

I think it's pretty obvious that there is a big difference between a site that utilizes adsense in an appropriate manner versus a "built for adsense" site, and I think it's pretty obvious from that name what it means.

Must you always be so exacting? :)

[Dave Hawley]

Must you always be so exacting?That's our Tony's, he's not much but he's ours :)

[tonys]

Blue....Dave....

Yep. That be me. Quit assuming that poster's questions are ethical violations by your better than thou standards.

There are many that build websites "specifically for Adsense" and similar PPC programs that have substantial content of human interest . They build them to earn a living for the same reason you build yours.

You two are the ones defense lawyers always fear being on a jury because you make up your mind of quilt before you've heard the facts. You have closed minds and assume every webmaster in the world cheats but you.

Yes. In this world of ecommerce, be exacting before you make erroneous and misleading generalizations.

I for one specifically build websites for Adsense. I pick a subject. I spend many hours researching a topic and provide information to people wanting that information. The content is indepth, factual and informative.......and when it's ready I wrap Adsense.

No spam. Ethical. Strictly for visitors. And value to society.

[tonys]

And Dave......

You think "I'm not much". I could buy you 10 times over Bud. That's a generalization I guarantee I can back up.

[WebSavvy]

That's our Tony's, he's not much but he's ours ...
Little rude there, don't 'ya think?

BTW Dave, I know Tony pretty well ... and he's no slouch.

[Dave Hawley]

Sorry Tony's if my comment was rude. That wasn't my intention, hence the smiley :)

[Dave Hawley]

Originally posted by tonys
And Dave......

You think "I'm not much". I could buy you 10 times over Bud. That's a generalization I guarantee I can back up.

Cool, back it up! I'm worth about 1 million so are you offering 10 million :D

[tonys]

Let me ask my wife.
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She wants to know what you look like first.

[WebSavvy]

OMG! Too funny! :floor:

[WebSavvy]

Dave, would that be 1 MIL in "AdSense Keywords?"

I slay me!

[Dave Hawley]

I for one specifically build websites for Adsense. I pick a subject. I spend many hours researching a topic and provide information to people wanting that information. The content is indepth, factual and informative.......and when it's ready I wrap Adsense.That where you and I differ (well, one of many areas) I build a site for humans by adding good useful content and then add AdSence for some cream on the cake. By being almost totally reliant on AdSence you are putting all your eggs into one basket that you don't even control.

[Dave Hawley]

Originally posted by tonys
Let me ask my wife.
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She wants to know what you look like first.

Just like my avatar. Pretty sexy hey :jig:

[WebSavvy]

BTW ... (silightly off topic, but related) ...

I've been seeing a ton of site specific ads in my AdSense Publisher reports.

You know how when you run the reports you can get the data for "Contextual" and "Site?"

Well, on mine there's tons of "Site" ads. I thought it was for the "Advertiser Sign-up" deal, (I'd opted out of that). I asked Google about it, and they said that all Publisher sites are opted-in to "Site Specific" ads by default.

Advertisers have been running site specific CPM ads on my site. Google gets paid, I don't.

The most I've seen from CPM ads on my site are 1¢

My AdSense Rep told me that if I don't want my site listed in the "Site Specific" ads area, I could just tell her and they'd remove it. So, I opted to have them remove it.

[tonys]

Dave......

She says your avatar looks like a radical terrorist trapped in the wildwest days. Or an ornery prostate. She also says she's not into bananas. She'll pass on the 10mil unless you're talking dinars.

[Dave Hawley]

Oh well, her loss ;)

[Blue]

Originally posted by tonys
Blue....Dave....

Yep. That be me. Quit assuming that poster's questions are ethical violations by your better than thou standards.

There are many that build websites "specifically for Adsense" and similar PPC programs that have substantial content of human interest . They build them to earn a living for the same reason you build yours.

You two are the ones defense lawyers always fear being on a jury because you make up your mind of quilt before you've heard the facts. You have closed minds and assume every webmaster in the world cheats but you.

Yes. In this world of ecommerce, be exacting before you make erroneous and misleading generalizations.

I for one specifically build websites for Adsense. I pick a subject. I spend many hours researching a topic and provide information to people wanting that information. The content is indepth, factual and informative.......and when it's ready I wrap Adsense.

No spam. Ethical. Strictly for visitors. And value to society. Thanks tonys ... I got a good chuckle from that post. :)

How contradictory can one get?

Make up your mind. Do you "specifically build websites for Adsense" or are they built "Strictly for visitors?"

I think your social circle and mine must differ radically.

And using defense lawyers as a ... erm ... defense? Good one! :D

But my favorite is how you assume that I assume. :cheers:

[tonys]

Blue....

"I think your social circle and mine must differ radically."

God I hope so.

[Blue]

:D

[jfrovich]

Originally posted by savvy1
BTW ... (silightly off topic, but related) ...

I've been seeing a ton of site specific ads in my AdSense Publisher reports.

You know how when you run the reports you can get the data for "Contextual" and "Site?"

Well, on mine there's tons of "Site" ads. I thought it was for the "Advertiser Sign-up" deal, (I'd opted out of that). I asked Google about it, and they said that all Publisher sites are opted-in to "Site Specific" ads by default.

Advertisers have been running site specific CPM ads on my site. Google gets paid, I don't.

The most I've seen from CPM ads on my site are 1¢

My AdSense Rep told me that if I don't want my site listed in the "Site Specific" ads area, I could just tell her and they'd remove it. So, I opted to have them remove it.

did this affect your website revenue?

and i never noticed AdSense Publisher reports?

I need to spend more time looking around

[WebSavvy]

did this affect your website revenue?
Yes, it did. With "site targeting" - 'ON', the revenue went down.

Now that "site targeting" is - 'OFF' the revenue has gone back up again.

To see the reports, you need to go to the "Advanced Reports" area. I have channels set, so am able to see "Site" Vs "Contextual" by Channel.

[jfrovich]

Originally posted by savvy1
Yes, it did. With "site targeting" - 'ON', the revenue went down.

Now that "site targeting" is - 'OFF' the revenue has gone back up again.

To see the reports, you need to go to the "Advanced Reports" area. I have channels set, so am able to see "Site" Vs "Contextual" by Channel.

Found it
Show data by targeting type - contextual or site
my site only shows between 10-0 Ad unit impressions
and lots more on Contextual

does this mean im ok
or should i get google to dump my site targeting?

I checked back for several months
and all the site "Ad unit impressions" are almost nothing

[WebSavvy]

Whether you keep site targeting or not, is up to you. It depends on how your site does with it. If it's worth your while, keep it. If not, ask Google to take your site off site targeting.

In my case it wasn't worth my while, so we ditched it. Plain and simple.

[Dave Hawley]

Deb, where do you turn off "site targeting" in AdSense? I thought I might give it a try and see what happens.

[Dave Hawley]

Make up your mind. Do you "specifically build websites for Adsense" or are they built "Strictly for visitors?"Tony, I think that is a very valid question.

[jfrovich]

Originally posted by Dave Hawley
Deb, where do you turn off "site targeting" in AdSense? I thought I might give it a try and see what happens.

log into your adsence account
select My Account
scroll down to Onsite Advertiser Sign-Up
remove check in Include me in Onsite Advertiser Sign-Up

[Dave Hawley]

Thanks jfrovich!

[WebSavvy]

No, that's not it, I'm afraid. I thought it was the same thing also. Which is what threw me because I'd opted out of the Advertiser sign-up quite some time back. Site targeting is all together different.

Here's what the AdSense Rep emailed back to me:

Hello Deborah,

Thanks for your email regarding Site Targeted ads.

I understand you've opted out of Onsite Advertiser Sign-up, but site targeted ads are still appearing on your web pages. At this time, all AdSense publishers are opted-in to site targeting, which is separate from Onsite Advertiser Sign-up.

Participation in site targeting allows you to receive the most earnings possible for the Google ads on your site. Through site targeting, pay-per-impression ads compete with pay-per-click ads to be displayed on any page. Site targeting will work to your benefit, as more competition among ads will lead to higher potential earnings for you.

Please also keep in mind that you can continue to use your Competitive Ad filter to prevent specific ads, including site-targeted pay-per-impression ads, from appearing on your site. If, however, you'd still prefer to opt-out of site targeting, please respond to this email to let us know.

For additional questions, we encourage you to visit the AdSense Help Center (http://www.google.com/adsense_help), our complete resource center for all AdSense topics. Alternatively, feel free to post your question on the forum just for AdSense publishers: the AdSense Help Group (http://groups.google.com/group/adsense-help).

[Dave Hawley]

Ok, now I'm confused (nothing new). What is it Deb that you turned off in AdSense which increased your revenue?

[WebSavvy]

I had the AdSense Rep turn off site targeting for my site.

All AdSense Publishers are opted-in to "Site Targeting" by default. The only way you can get out of it, is to ask.

By having site targeting turned off, site-specific pay-per-impression (CPM) ads are not shown on your site thereby allowing a pay-per-click (PPC) ad to run in its place.

On my site, there were tons of CPM ads. I mean really, tons of them. The CPM earnings were a penny. No kidding.

Since having my site removed from site targeting, now only PPC ads are being displayed again, and revenue has gone back up again.

[Dave Hawley]

Cool I write them an email. Thanks

Ask me in a month and I'll let you know if it increased my revenue.

[jfrovich]

Originally posted by Dave Hawley
Cool I write them an email. Thanks

Ask me in a month and I'll let you know if it increased my revenue.

Ya i emailed them as well to remove this..
lets hope for more cash cause of it:cheers:

[Comeran]

After a month can all 3 of you let us know if it helped, and if so by how much.

This is something huge that I think we are all very interested in.

Com-

[Dave Hawley]

Will do. If I forget, PM me.

[jfrovich]

Originally posted by Comeran
After a month can all 3 of you let us know if it helped, and if so by how much.

This is something huge that I think we are all very interested in.

Com-

ill be checking it daily..
so ill know very soon

[ihelpyou]

Hey tonys, how much would your wife pay for me? :slywink:

[WebSavvy]

You guys wanted an update as to what type of difference it made with opting out of the "Impression Ads" (site targeting) ...

Well, click-thru rate is up about 14% and revenue is up by 35%

IMO, it was worth it to opt out (at least with regard to my own site).