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srikanthsh
20-01-2007, 12:50/12:50PM
Hi all,

Please suggest me a hosting provider in UK, with better customer support system. Thank you for your time.

WebSavvy
21-01-2007, 00:41/12:41AM
Check out myacen.com -- they have servers in US, AU, UK.

The man that owns it, Robert, is very nice. They have good support too. I hosted with them a few years ago but my sites outgrew the hosting package size limits, then I moved to a private server environment.

srikanthsh
22-01-2007, 06:31/06:31AM
Thank you Deb. Went through the site.

Waiting for few other suggestions, so that i can check and pick one.

ihelpyou
22-01-2007, 06:51/06:51AM
I know nothing about UK hosts but I'm sure others can check in with a few.

Quadrille
22-01-2007, 11:48/11:48AM
Wish I could help, but I've never used one - US hosting is such value for money, and I've never needed to for 'geographical' reasons.

SEFL
22-01-2007, 12:14/12:14PM
Amen to what Quad said...and this comes from a non-American (try doing anything non-static-HTMLish in Canada and watch 99.9% of hosts go into meltdown and you'll know what I mean.)

Having said that, I used to see a guy named Matt post on WHT all the time and he was a quality poster. The people that used his hosting company seemed pretty satisfied too. I've never used it myself, so I can't speak from experience, but usually quality posters tend to work for or own quality companies (not always but it's a decent rule of thumb.)

Anyway, here's his company: United Hosting (http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk/).

marcs
23-01-2007, 05:07/05:07AM
Just to back up SEFL's recommendation..

I've used UnitedHosting for a few years now and their service and customer support is excellent. They also have servers and admin in the US and UK.

loki
23-01-2007, 07:21/07:21AM
i've been using these guys for 4 and 6 years respectively.

clook.net
unitedhosting.co.uk

they're both very very good. if they have a fault it's not dumbing down their advice/replies to non-tech folk (like me).

good luck.

srikanthsh
23-01-2007, 10:57/10:57AM
Thank you all :)

srikanthsh
23-01-2007, 11:57/11:57AM
I thought that this guy was going to register .com domain. Just now I came to know that he is going to register .co.uk domain. Now, I can suggest him to go with the US hosting provider that I have been using for others, right? Never had to deal with these regional issues.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 12:01/12:01PM
Yes, you need EITHER UK hosting OR .co.uk - so you can go with US hosting and save significant money.

I've several .co.uk sites hosted that way - thye do fine in Google .com as well as g.co.uk

SEFL
23-01-2007, 12:42/12:42PM
There is a non-SEO factor to consider here.

If your client registered a .co.uk domain, it seems obvious that the client is targeting UK customers.

If that's the case, then hosting in the UK makes more sense simply because the majority of people will be able to reach it more quickly and more often. In other words, you're picking hosting for your customers, not for search engines.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 12:49/12:49PM
Huh?

Hosting and SEO are two separate issues. Once the 'local search' issue is covered, it's not about SEO or SEs, it's about convenience and value for money.

If the listing is OK, and the servers are OK, any time delay is in picoseconds, and really isn't an issue.

So far as the customer is concerned, it makes abso-tootally zero difference.

And you could more than halve your server costs by crossing the Atlantic.

SEFL
23-01-2007, 13:17/01:17PM
That's odd. My experience with sites hosted in Europe is that there tends to be a rather significant lag factor of sorts.

This was especially true when I had to work on a couple of Europe-based sites a few years back (I know "vacature" is "job" in Dutch!)

Maybe it's because I'm in Canada and we're still somewhat backward, I dunno.

Personally though, I wouldn't take the chance. UK hosted server = fewer hops, generally speaking that is = less chance of "why is the site down?" or "i cudnt connex to ur site las nite" when it really isn't.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 13:49/01:49PM
You have to balance cost - risk - benefit

I've been hosted in the States for 8 years; exceptional service, rare downtime (and they always apologise!), no appreciable delay compared to locally hosted sites here in the UK.

I never heard of a UK host that gives as thorough service as US hosts, with the same control - and the same reliability.

And it's wayyyyy less than half the price last time I looked.

For me it's a no-brainer; your mileage may vary ;)

srikanthsh
23-01-2007, 14:13/02:13PM
Though I am in India, I never have much server down time issues or slow accessibility etc. And I always recieved fast response for my queries and technical requirements. So, I suggested US server after going through all the suggestions.

Thank you for all the input guys.

loki
23-01-2007, 14:21/02:21PM
a bonus (for me) to using a uk-based hosting service is they are on much the same time zone as me.

if i need urgent attention, i'm not left to the night watchman who's half-asleep to look at my email.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 14:31/02:31PM
Fair comment - but US hosts are so much more reliable - and 'urgent attention' gets you service 24/7, rather than Wednesday week if the sun shines on Wakefield ;)

SEFL
23-01-2007, 17:20/05:20PM
Now that's a point I can see, Quad.

I can't speak to the UK hosting situation, since I've never been there and only used one (it was all right, but seemed a bit pricey at the time), but I can draw a Canada-US parallel to the situation.

Canadian hosts have only just started pricing their stuff even REMOTELY competitively when compared to their US counterparts, and the standard of service isn't even close (8x5 M-F support in most cases, low-level techs who quite often are just live bodies, permissions that restrict anyone from building a website that has any degree of interactivity, long wait times...that's just the stuff I came up with off the top of my head!)

Networx Hosting
Magma (division of Primus)
Atomic Motion
One in Burlington that started with an E (that I forget the name of)
Rogers (although to be fair, they're not ALL bad...they just had a weird case-sensitive thing happening)
Various private hosts

Dealt with over a dozen, and they've all...what's the politically correct term here? Oh yeah...SUUUUUUUUUUCKED.

So I can see a UK-US situation like that being true. I'm not saying it is or it isn't. I'm just saying I can believe it is.

Dave Hawley
23-01-2007, 17:21/05:21PM
What's the connection between reliability and the US and UK?

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 17:40/05:40PM
US pretty good; UK pretty awful, is my understanding.

My experience is all Stateside, and has been exceptional - I hear many, many complaints about UK hosting, in all sorts of places; and on all three ky topics - value for money, reliability and quality of support.

Dave Hawley
23-01-2007, 18:08/06:08PM
Ok, so it's hear-say and a blanket statement.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 19:06/07:06PM
... you'll find it's worth the effort, because people will then feel free to take you seriously, which would be a real first for you, wouldn't it :D

I make it my business to know these things; if it were simply hearsay and 'a blanket statement' (where?), I'd have left that to you.

I could point you - but you can search for yourself - to some quality sources of consistent gripes about UK hosting.

I challenge you, however, to find the equivalent for US hosting.

Just because you (in Australia) were not aware of these issues, does not reduce them to hearsay.

You are free to do what I do - read around and pay attention to others.

But hey, it's easier just to be rude, huh?

Dave Hawley
23-01-2007, 19:27/07:27PM
Try not to get personal and degrade to name calling all the time. It sais more about you than me.

My experience is all Stateside, and has been exceptional - I hear many, many complaints about UK hosting, in all sorts of places; and on all three ky topics - value for money, reliability and quality of support.You can yell and stamp your feet and call me all the names all you like but that statement IS still hearsay.

No idea why you are having a hissy fit over it though :confused:

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. For someome who dishes out personal insults like there is no tomorrow you sure are sensitive. :balling:

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 19:42/07:42PM
Grow up? From you? Twat!

You join three threads out of five only to sneer at someone. Or endlessly repeat your crazy ideas. When did you ever cite a source for your ramblings?

As a UK resident, with hosting in the US, I make it my business to keep in touch with the market, on the off chance it'll turn in my favour. Just because I didn't cite my sources, does make it hearsay. I stated that I had them.

You could, of course have said "I've heard different; howzabout some sources?" - but you neither know not care; you've heard nothing and you have no interest. You just want - as ever - an opportunity to exercise the chip on your shoulder.

And that's EXACTLY the difference between you and me; I'm VERY rude when I have reason to be. You are very rude for the sheer spite of it.

You are a jerk. And you CHOSE to be!

And yes, I feel much better for saying it. :D Now shove off.

Dave Hawley
23-01-2007, 19:57/07:57PM
Sorry, you'll have to carry on with your tantrum without me. Can't stand to see a gown man cry :balling:

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 20:13/08:13PM
:uplaugh: You really don't know which way is up, do you?

And you'll be back for last word - you simply don't know how to walk away.

SEFL
23-01-2007, 20:44/08:44PM
Hey, hey, HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Slow your roll, there, homeslices.

Dave: Quad's got a bit of a point. You do have a rather unusual habit of stirring the pot quite a bit. Not that there's anything wrong with doing that (I did it earlier without meaning to), it'd be a lot more effective (not to mention really, REALLY funny) if you elected to raise hell with those would blow a purely emotional gasket.

Try Craven. He's always good for a totally illogical, left-field argument. Better yet, post on SEW or Threadwatch. They'll REALLY get going. Think of all the blackhat time that would be wasted. ;)

Quad: you took the bait. So you're a bad boy too. You also used the term "twat" when technically Dave can't be one, since he doesn't have one. The correct term for Dave, since he is male, is "peckerhead." Let's use the proper asshole grammar and spelling, please. ;)

As far as the hosting question is concerned, srikanthsh, the question I have for you is this...now that the SEO implications have pretty well been taken out of the equation for you (which is always a good thing) and you can focus on quality hosting (which is even better), why not do what Quad semi-suggested? Hunt down about 5-6 good hosts, and narrow 'em down based on reviews, user comments, money back guarantee, scalability, etc.

Quadrille
23-01-2007, 21:02/09:02PM
Originally posted by SEFL
Let's use the proper asshole grammar and spelling, please. ;)Apologies; my anatomy textbook fell down the back of the computer again ... :D

ihelpyou
23-01-2007, 22:54/10:54PM
Come on Dave; we are your friends in here. Q always defends you behind closed doors so please lighten up and put all your wisdom and smarts towards where it belongs.... the spammers in this industry. It doesn't do any of us any good to be bashing each other. It really doesn't. And Adam is right; posting over at SEW and a few other choice places ain't much fun. It's damn good fun in here, but we don't need to be spatting.

Dave Hawley
23-01-2007, 23:19/11:19PM
What on Earth did I say that was so bad?

Read back through and you'll see all the childish name calling etc came from Quadrille, not me. All I said, I still stand by it, was "Ok, so it's hear-say and a blanket statement"

I really think Quadrille needs to learn to take a tiny dose of his own medicine.....at least once and a while.

BTW, it's a pity Q has ever had to defend me behind my back. Perhaps he detests those without balls enough to say something up-front. Although no names have been mentioned, I know who at least 3 are. Not my problem though :)

ihelpyou
24-01-2007, 00:04/12:04AM
Just relax Dave. You do have a tendency to stir the pot. You stir it with my best members, and you are one of them. I wish you would pick my enemies to stir up instead. :) We all are like-minded. Why spat with people who have the same goals?

Dave Hawley
24-01-2007, 00:54/12:54AM
You wont answer my question then and I have no idea why you believe I did anything wrong when it's all there in black and white.

"Wanker", "Twat", "endlessly repeat your crazy ideas", " because people will then feel free to take you seriously, which would be a real first for you, wouldn't it ", "Now shove off", "You join three threads out of five only to sneer at someone.", "When did you ever cite a source for your ramblings", "an opportunity to exercise the chip on your shoulder", "You are very rude for the sheer spite of it.", "You are a jerk. And you CHOSE to be!"

Ever heard the saying the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil. :)

The one statement from me just doesn't warrant the attention, insults, name calling it keeps getting......it really doesn't.

WebSavvy
24-01-2007, 01:53/01:53AM
Maybe everyone should just take a breather and relax for a while? Fighting among friends never produces anything worth while.

Save your energy for where the fight is truly needed. We have a porn spammer among us that just won't QUIT!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Dave Hawley
24-01-2007, 02:13/02:13AM
Great idea Deb.

Now, where's this porn spammer.

srikanthsh
24-01-2007, 10:35/10:35AM
srikanthsh, the question I have for you is this...now that the SEO implications have pretty well been taken out of the equation for you (which is always a good thing)
Actually, I knew this before due to long term read-up and participation in our forums. Just I wanted to double check with our guys before going ahead. Q knew this while he was replying to me. I know, He was saying that I was right and could go ahead.

and you can focus on quality hosting (which is even better), why not do what Quad semi-suggested? Hunt down about 5-6 good hosts, and narrow 'em down based on reviews, user comments, money back guarantee, scalability, etc.
Yep, I already have couple of reliable Hosting providers from US.

Actually I thought that guy was going to register .com domain. Thats why, I was asking about Hosting Providers in UK.