New Spammy SEO Company

[Catfish]

As if you couldn't tell by their name, http://www.high-higher-highest-rankings.com is not the SEO company you want to do business with. I was looking at the rankings for one of their clients as they compete with mine. Their client is http://www.industrialsupportinc.com/ As I was analyzing the backlinks to this site to see who was really "voting" for these guys, I noticed that many of the pages are like this one, aptly named "Credits": http://www.ronjoseph.com/credits.htm

As you can see, this company is basically a big link exchange company for its clients and I wouldn't want to be working customer service there when Google finally sees their whole "network"...lol.

[ihelpyou]

LOL

Can you imagine having to tell a potential client over the phone what your domain is?

erm, hmm, it's high hyphen higher hyphen highest hyphen seo hyphen.com

[SEFL]

I love their website tips (for those who want to have as much fun as I am, look down the right side of each page as well as the actual website tips.)


When printing websites, turn your browser's background printer option to "on".

No, that won't kill a cartridge or toner, will it?

Create static web pages.

Just like CNN, Amazon, and MLB's sites all do.

Use misspelled words on some of your pages.

Now that's user-friendly! I tink I am going too mispel sume wurds for my SEO rank to go up high!

Web pages, like a spread sheet, are made using cells and tables. Use as few cells and tables in your web design as possible.

Hmmm...wonder what divs are for? And webpages are like spreadsheets? THAT'S IT, I'M USING EXCEL FOR MY WEB EDITOR NOW!

Frames based websites should only be used for Intranet (a site only for company employees) and not for Internet.

So if I'm building a client admin section, I should use frames rather than server-side includes. IT'S ALL SO CLEAR NOW.

To be totally fair, I'm not sure that this site has been updated much in the last few years. If this guy is maintaining his site, he's doing a poor job of it.

[Catfish]

I just trip out that so many people will do business with a company with a name like that. I mean who would trust their brand to a company like that. Of coarse part of the blame lies with Google..lol. This kind of crap shouldn't work anymore but still does.

[Catfish]

He prolly isn't doing much of anything except paying some intern to write title tags and then he just feeds to clients URL into his system, and thats it.

[kalew]

I especally like the table in the center of his "content" entitled Keywords important to blah, blah, blah...

A bit spammy, wouldn't you say??? It's a shame because I know of some unsuspecting companies that would fall for this type of SEO - those who don't know any better.

[Arnabme]

The most important thing is the domain name as DOugh has already mentioned. Apart from telling the domain name to propective clients how on earth do they consider such a hyphenated domain.

[searchenginemarketing4u]

Just reading the domain name makes me not want to visit it :rolleyes:

[Catfish]

It just goes to show you how much information about SEO is not available to the average consumer (business or otherwise). I mean, if you know ANYTHING about SEO, you know that you don't do business with an SEO company with a name like that...lol. I really don't understand how they convince so many people to give them their money. Although, like I say, its Google's fault cause their link scheme appears to still be producing good results for their clients. But man, the day all those listings disappear is the day that I quit that customer service job :D

[Dave Hawley]

Cat, why do you assume the spammy links are THE reason (or even part of) for the site industrialsupportinc dot com ranking as they do?

[Arnabme]

Dave:

why do you assume the spammy links are THE reason

Spammy Link are only a part of the story but do you think that apart from spammy links having a good content spread over few pages make search engine ignore spammy links.

Let me know if I am wrong?

[Dave Hawley]

I would say that Google has seen all the link tricks over the years and hence not credit them in most, if not all, cases.

I believe they only penalize, or drop sites when/if the spam is beyond the control of their ever evolving algo.

[Arnabme]

Dave:

if the spam is beyond the control of their ever evolving algo

Yes, thats right but its a guess as to what is the actual level of spamming. I have many a site use a list of keywords in the top section of the home page. It looks dirty as well as it is nothing but spamming the page with keywords.

In that case Google seems to ignore the site if they are having good content and good traffic to the site due to the popularity of the site.

[Dave Hawley]

IMO;

The last thing Google wants to do is ban sites and/or pages. They want the most pages they can possibly get so they have a large database to draw from. While size doesn't assure quality, it does increase the chances.

I doubt spam not being credited is done on a site-by-site basis due to "popularity" or anything else. It would be across the board.

If a spammy page gets the most points for a search term (spam elements ignored) they will still list it at number 1. This is because the end user is still getting what Google's algo has determined as the most relevant page. Users don't give a hoot how and why the page is there, only that it suits their needs.

In other words, SEs are extremely objective and not subjective.

[Catfish]

Hey Dave, I promise I will give you a good reply when I have time, but work is killing me today and I don't have anytime to post and show you the analysis today. If I forgot to do it this week sometime, just remind me. I have so much going on right now (which is a good thing) its hard to see straight..lol.

[Arnabme]

Looking forward to see some good analysis from you Catfish.

[Comeran]

Originally posted by Catfish
[B]It just goes to show you how much information about SEO is not available to the average consumer (business or otherwise).

I don't know that it isn't available to them as much as they are lazy.

The truth is that most people are lazy and want to believe that there is an easy way to do everything. A pill to loose weight. A machine to exercise for you. A link spammer to get your link popularity up.

The people don't like the idea that you have to build the site properly and work to make a difference. They want the easy fix that takes a week and gets them to the top of the search engines.... ohh and they don't want to pay more than a few hundred to do it!

The problem is that being a business owner doesn't always mean smarter!

The good business owners that I have dealt with are happy to hear what I have to say, because it makes sense. Get sites to link to you so you are seen, advertise, and build the site properly making sure it is user friendly.

I wouldn't want the customers that would use this service. It is best that those companies get those people.

Com-

[Dave Hawley]

The truth is that most people are lazy and want to believe that there is an easy way to do everything. A pill to loose weight. A machine to exercise for you. A link spammer to get your link popularity up.Great analogies Com. I couldn't agree more.

There is likely too much SEO available IMO and like Com states, people tend to want to read/hear the easy way and mentally block out anything that sounds too hard.