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[Mel]

Hi all:

Just trying to figure out how google got that #1 listing up there and started looking at the remaining first ten rankings which are as expected and come from well known SEO (including Freemoneyservices of course) until you get to #9 which seems to be way off target. 'pears to me that there might be a bit of cloaking going on there - what do you think?

[MazY]

LOL Sure seems that way.

Though I am always a bit more cautious than many others to believe that because the cached version is different then it must be cloaking. I take my own site as an example. It has been going through some extremely major overhauls of late and is continuing to do so over the next two weeks. Ergo, it has been known on more than one occasion where, since the cached version, I have changed a page completely.

However, given the radical difference in design on the one that you raise, I'd go with your theory I think.

[highman]

Yes def. cloaking, if they were my competitor I would turn em in ;)

[ihelpyou]

Talk about blatant uninhibited type cloaking for ALL the world to see. Wow. The pages are not even close.

At least if you are going to cloak, you should make what the browser sees and what the robot sees SOMEWHAT similar.

Geezee, .... what some sites and/or SEO's will do.

[MazY]

I've started turning people in just to sate my own appetite for being a misfit! lol

They can be in a field where I have absolutely no interest whatsoever and I'll still do it.

No moral standards that's my problem!

[highman]

Interesting that #1 also has #13 spot

[Mel]

After serious reconsideration of my previously stated, perhaps hasty conclusion, and especially after considering deeply you nice little quote in your signature, I wish to retract and state as follows:

I realize that there is no absolute justification for my previously posted conclusion, and that there is always the possibility that the esteemed firm in question has perhaps reconsidered their web business and determined that keyword stuffing does not generate the requisite traffic and so have reoganised thier site to reflect their new business direction in the interim period between the last Google spidering and today.

This is particularly applicable in view of the fact the EVERYONE is younger than I am.

[MazY]

I've also just been looking at the #10. They are not doing anything wrong at all but I do think they are a classic case of "overdosing" on page keywords. Try reading the page and it feels like you are being bludgeoned by their key-phrases. Despite any written rules about keyword density, when it comes to the point when I feel like the user is being bludgeoned, then I know it is too much.

[MazY]

Originally posted by Mel
After serious reconsideration of my previously stated, perhaps hasty conclusion, and especially after considering deeply you nice little quote in your signature, I wish to retract and state as follows:

Naaah. Stuff 'em - chalk it up as a cloaker I say! lol

[ihelpyou]

Yes highman.... sure does...nice find. At least both lead to the same page.

[MazY]

LOL Talk about silly...

Check this one out. Hit CTRL+A and ask yourself "Was it worth it to hide that text?" lol I love life....

Hmm. Can't seem to get the link to work on this one. So search on "search engine placement" and take a look at the #2 spot.

[highman]

the #1 page leads to the #13 page....... odd

[Mel]

Yes MazY - that #10 listing is enough to make you dizzy trying to read it, and according to all known incantations used to seduce the Googlebot it should be penalized for keyword stuffing, but that seems to have sailed over the head of this new index also

[Mel]

Hi there Highman

Yes it is a bit more than strange because the #1 SERP is just a doorway page for the #13 listing, when you enter their site you are not taken to the URL listed but to the #13 URL via a redirect, which search engines are not supposed to tolerate, but....

[highman]

Consider them turned in :hit:

Thats my anti spamming for the day

[highman]

update -

Thanks for alerting us to this - we appreciate your vigilance. We will examine the sites in question to determine if they are trying to mislead us. Please let us know if you see similar search results in the future.

Regards,

The Google Team

Come on M19 lets turn em in !

[JuniorHarris]

Very good!~ Slow deaths to all spammers!~ :D

[ihelpyou]

Good job highman!

What do you all think about these pages:

http://www.1stsearchengineranking.com/ .. #10

That doorway domain/page leads to here:

http://www.1stsearchranking.com/.....

Another domain/doorway page is here:

http://64.176.24.155/... #6

which leads to this domain:

http://www.digitalagemarketing.com/...

These are for the term:
search engine optimization

Why can't sites just simply optimize their MAIN SITE!!!!!

Makes me sooooo sick to my stomach.

Plain disgusted with all these so-called SEO companies.

Ain't it funny that many of the top 10 sites feel the need to have to "trick" Google in order to be in the top 10?

Really shows you just how good they are.....:circle: