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Stevie
17-04-2008, 05:51/05:51AM
I have a TypePad blog, which is a hosted solution from the SixApart company.

I just used an online tool and discovered that I'm in a bad IP neighborhood as hundreds of dubious sites are hosted there.

On reflection, it's probably difficult for a hosted services company to avoid this and certainly a financial decision on their part.

This might also explain my PR=0 rating.

Do ALL hosted blog sites have this problem?

BTW, I have my own domain pointing to TypePad, so it's no called myblog.typepad.com but myblog.com

The tool clearly shows that the dubious sites are hosted on the SixApart server.

Any ideas, suggestion, comments please?

Connie
17-04-2008, 07:28/07:28AM
Id have to ask how the tool determined you were in a bad neighborhood.

Connie
17-04-2008, 07:31/07:31AM
Thats a really big problem related to all these online tools. People accept the results as fact. No one accept certain employees of the SEs know the facts fro any particular question.

Stevie
17-04-2008, 07:51/07:51AM
I cannot post the actual search string which it compiles because there are too many bad words in it and I might get banned from this Forum.

Can I send it by private message to you?

Stevie
17-04-2008, 08:20/08:20AM
I have a better idea. Here is a link to the tool so that you can try it with other hosted blogs that you know.

http://www.virante.com/seo-tools/clean-ip-tool.php

The site belongs to the young man who has just published the book "Zero to one million."

Regards

Connie
17-04-2008, 09:16/09:16AM
I tried it on one of my sites. No problems, but I still say it is worthless. You can not be held accountable IMO for who your neighbors are on shared hosting, unless you happen to be linking to some bad neighbors. You need to determine that by looking at the site you link to, and who they link to. I would not trust some unknown tool to make that evaluation for me with any accuracy.

SEFL
17-04-2008, 10:00/10:00AM
IP Cleanliness Response: _G.cUrl!=UNDEFINED)setTimeout(sendCReq,1000);if(type Pages on IP

I'd say it's worthless just because it appears that Javascript got mixed up with the response.

If you really want to know about the sites hosted on your server, find out if your IP address is on any mail blacklists. If not, and you're not linking somewhere you're not supposed to, you'll be fine.

canadiantrip
17-04-2008, 10:47/10:47AM
Hi Stevie. I will not worry about that. Spend time instead on writing great content for your blog.

Stevie
17-04-2008, 16:25/04:25PM
I appreciate all the feedback, but nobody actually saw the search string that was entered, because everybody got clean results.

Does the moderator mind if I post it here? If you wish I can "neutralise" the bad words. I just find it hard to believe that this fast-grwoing company, who offer SEO and many other online marketing services and have sales of I think 40 or 50 m$ would offer a tool that doesn't work.

It would be good to see if the experts here can reason on the logic of the functioning of this tool.

Any objections moderator?

IncrediBILL
17-04-2008, 16:33/04:33PM
I'm on blogger and it's a pretty bad neighborhood for splogs (spam blogs) yet I have a PR 5 site.

So I'm not sure that your host is the problem.

Usually it's who you link to, who links to you, or lack of links that causes the problems you're having.

SEFL
17-04-2008, 17:21/05:21PM
I just find it hard to believe that this fast-grwoing company, who offer SEO and many other online marketing services and have sales of I think 40 or 50 m$ would offer a tool that doesn't work.

Dude, you have no idea how funny that is, and it's on a number of levels. :D

1) The sales claim. Either you work for the company and are posting sales figures because you know them (in which case your link is biased), or you're talking out of your ass because you read some claim somewhere that they made or heard some interview that they did and think they're the greatest thing since apple pie (this is the more likely explanation). Either way...that isn't even close to true. They don't publish any of their clients' names, and just seem like yet another so-called SEO company blowing smoke up everyone's asses.

Ask yourself this question: why would a company like that run Google ads on a sales site, especially since the ads would be provided by competitors? Think about that...and I'll guarantee you that you can't come up with a good answer (there is none.)

2) The idea that an SEO would provide a tool that doesn't work. You're obviously new to the whole SEO thing, or you'd realize that there are very few good tools out there. Most of them are completely useless crap, and the Virante "tools" are no different.

It's crap like this that will eventually turn three-letter acronyms into four-letter words. SEO...MLM...SMO...what's the next great three-letter acronym-turned-swear-word?

WebSavvy
17-04-2008, 17:52/05:52PM
It's crap like this that will eventually turn three-letter acronyms into four-letter words. SEO...MLM...SMO...what's the next great three-letter acronym-turned-swear-word?
Wow, now that would be an incredible feat -- turning an abbreviation into an acronym just so it can be a swear word.

Just a FYI, but ... the examples you listed are abbreviations. The difference between acronyms and abbreviations is, acronyms can be pronounced as a word whereas abbreviations cannot.

Example acronyms:
News (which comes from the cardinal points North, East, West, South)
FAQ (which means Frequently Asked Questions)
WHO (world health organization)

Well ... you get the idea ;)

Danny
17-04-2008, 19:18/07:18PM
I have a better idea. Here is a link to the tool so that you can try it with other hosted blogs that you know.

Well emm, i've tried the tool
and i was curious to see the results for it's own domain :)

According to them, their own domain resides on an IP that belongs to a bad neighberhood !!
How about that ? :)

ihelpyou
17-04-2008, 22:25/10:25PM
I'd say it's a safe bet their silly "tool" is why the IP's everyone is associated with is a bad neighborhood. LOL The tool itself made things a bad neighborhood.

SEFL
18-04-2008, 10:08/10:08AM
Wow, now that would be an incredible feat -- turning an abbreviation into an acronym just so it can be a swear word.

Just a FYI, but ... the examples you listed are abbreviations. The difference between acronyms and abbreviations is, acronyms can be pronounced as a word whereas abbreviations cannot.

Example acronyms:
News (which comes from the cardinal points North, East, West, South)
FAQ (which means Frequently Asked Questions)
WHO (world health organization)

Well ... you get the idea ;)

Yeah, but it's easier for me to remember if they're all acronyms, and I don't like when one word effectively describes a subset of another word, so...they're all acronyms.

Stevie
18-04-2008, 10:23/10:23AM
I don't work for the company I mentioned.

Regards

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