Looksmart's Influence On Your Inktomi Listing?

[Sharon & Roy]

Hi Forum-Mates,

Is it still true that if you have paid for a Looksmart listing and then pay for the Inktomi Inclusion Program that no matter how many times you change your Title Tag and Meta Description Tag that it will not matter?

Since you have a Looksmart listing, your new URL you just paid to have included in and spidered by Inktomi every 48 hours, will update everything on your Web page but NOT the Title Tag and Meta Description Tag, right?

Also, what is the status of the Meta Keywords Tag? Can you change the content there, or is it also subject to what Looksmart editors have inserted.

Any and all clarification and/or conformation on this issue is most appreciated.

Then IF the above is true, would it also be true that if you want to have a page that you can change the Title Tag and Meta Tags on, that you would need to include ONLY pages that you don't have a Looksmart listing for?

TIA

Sharon & Roy

[Farhan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sharon & Roy


Is it still true that if you have paid for a Looksmart listing and then pay for the Inktomi Inclusion Program that no matter how many times you change your Title Tag and Meta Description Tag that it will not matter?

If you are refereing the LS title yes it will not change, but if you are refering to the your meta title, yes it will. If you pay to both LS and Ink, You get two listings one of LS and one of Ink in MSN.

Since you have a Looksmart listing, your new URL you just paid to have included in and spidered by Inktomi every 48 hours, will update everything on your Web page but NOT the Title Tag and Meta Description Tag, right?

Again, Yes it will get updated. But will show in the Ink results only. Which are secondary in MSN and Primary in AOL.

Also, what is the status of the Meta Keywords Tag? Can you change the content there, or is it also subject to what Looksmart editors have inserted.

If you change any of your Meta tags or Title, it will not affect your LS listing but will affect your Ink listings or rankings.

Then IF the above is true, would it also be true that if you want to have a page that you can change the Title Tag and Meta Tags on, that you would need to include ONLY pages that you don't have a Looksmart listing for?

Yes, but remember that not paying for LS will not get you on top of MSN results if its a competitive keyword. However, if you are not targeting MSN, but AOL only, or your keyword does not bring many directory sites, its fine to do that. (IMO).


One more thing...

Some sites which are both Ink DB show LS titles and this is a sign that they are in the BOW database of INk.

[ihelpyou]

All the answers to your questions s and r are pretty much yes.

All is UP IN THE AIR now because no one has a clue about what the heck Looksmart is going to do with this PPC thing. It could affect everything.

[JuniorHarris]

It will be interesting to see how LS implements its PPC scheme, er I mean plan! Hope they are also prepared to deal with the fraudulent clicks issues!~:eek:

[ihelpyou]

LOL. Hope indeedy!

[over_the_hill]

Howdy,

I am new to these forums, so be gentle.

I have recently noticed that all of my inktomi listings show up with the LS title and description. They also appear as a possible re-direct from LS. I have sent LS an email asking them if they are charging me PPC on my inktomi listings and to leave my ink listings alone. I am really puzzled about what is going on with this.

Maybe someone can shed some light.

Thanks,
Larry

[Mel]

Hi Over the hill:

I have both LS and Ink listings on many of my SERPs.

When searching in Pure Inktomi I get my page title as the SERP title and my description tag as the Description when using MSN search it gives me the same results in the web pages listings, but of course returns the L$ title and description in the directory listings.

Are you sure there is not some confusion between the LS results and the web page results in MSN?

[over_the_hill]

Hi Mel:

I don't think that I am confused. The same title and description comes up in MSN as a "web directory site" and a "web page". That didn't happen until LS changed their format.

Try searching for clear lake homes for sale in MSN and you will see what I mean. My wife is a realtor and I am responsible for her site at http://www.audreynovak.com. It seems that LS has taken over the inktomi listing as far as her site is concerned.

Thanks for your time.

Larry

[ihelpyou]

Yes it probably did as Inktomi has shown the LS title and description for quite awhile now if that url was in the LS directory.

[Mel]

Hi Over the hill:

Right you are, the title and description are NOT those on your home page and in addition Ink pure search shows the same title and description as appears in Looksmart and MSN. Since this is the case this Ink listing cannot have come about as a result of Slurp spidering your site

Have you paid for inclusion in Ink, or is it possible that they have brought your Looksmart listing into the Ink database?

As mentioned before however all my titles and descriptions in MSN web pages and Ink search are the same as those on my page title and Meta description tag.

[over_the_hill]

Mel,

I have paid for an inktomi listing as well as LS. I just noticed the change in title and description the last few days. My main concern is whether or not LS is using the inktomi listings as part of their PPC scam. I would also like to have the ability to change the title and description of the inktomi listing also.

Thanks,
Larry

[ihelpyou]

It's been mentioned a few times that if you pay Looksmart for a listing, no need to pay inktomi as well. You cannot change your Ink title and descr if you paid Looksmart. As far as what may happen with your LS listing? No one knows.

[Mel]

Hi Over the hill

Is Slurp spidering your paid for pages every 48 hours as agreed when you paid them?

I would contact PositionTech (or whoever you paid for inclusion in Ink) and tell them that you paid for inclusion so that you could modify your page titles and descriptions with regard to changing SEO and business considerations, but that these changes are not being implemented as agreed, and why the hell not, and especially that you do not want to be found in Ink for your L$ listing.

I would not worry that L$ is behind this, it seems to me that it could more likely be MSN, but then unitl we can get more information on the current arangement between these two, who knows what they might be doing?

[markymark]

Hang on. It is quite common for your Inktomi listings to appear with a Looksmart title and description. It can also be irritating too. This is nothing to do with the current goings on at Looksmart. Basically, though, in terms of rank it is advantageous to have your Looksmart title and description appear - you get a boost because of this.

However, if you don't want this listing to appear, get on to Inktomi and PositionTech and let them know. I don't know if it will do any good though.

There are already threads about this in this forum if you want to know more.

[over_the_hill]

I don't know if it bothers me that much that the title and description isn't updated on inktomi as much as if LS is charging me for the PPC on that particular listing.

Larry