any good

[rhytha]

hi does this look any good, give frank comments please!! and any idea's to pep it up if any.

http://www.rhytha.com/new/

[ihelpyou]

hey rhytha, the graphics are very good but they will not do you much good with the search engines. The engines deem your front page as most important and they only index visible text on the page. Your page has none.

[Matt B]

You color selection (while I really like strong colors) is very hard on the eyes. Not enough contrast to make me do anything else other than skim the content. Your marketing page was not available when I checked.

[rhytha]

:p thanx for taking the time, guys.
I actually don't want to brand my hosting,design,seo company into the same bracket as others, with the home page having a server or two with a guy showing thumbsup or a women on a terminal talking(incase of hosting firms),. besides all said and done the service and the plans your offering is what basicaly that attracts customers. well thats my opinion. do you guys agree with me.:D

i have taken off the "plugin" image off, i think now it sought of looks good.:D

[WebSavvy]

It's really "orange." There are a few studies on Internet credibility and the use of color as an influence you may consider to read. The research will really open your eyes about the logic side of design and color.

Best Wishes.
-Deb

[rhytha]

where can i read it savy!! :) besides do you really belive in that offcourse you can always take it with a pinch of salt. did any color pyscology work for you. :D

also now take a look i have made some modifications.!!

[WebSavvy]

I'll go through my bookmarks and post the link to the studies. I gave that link to our Moderator Mel, and after reading it he decided to change the way he designs sites also.

I can tell you from my own experience, with my submission site. I first designed the site using a very "green" layout and design (because I love green) but it was a real turnoff to visitors to my site. I had close to the same content then, as I do now, but for the first 6 months with that "very green design" I saw lots of traffic but NO sales.

I took three weeks and redesigned the layout to what it currently is and within just a week of having the new design up, I had 3 sales. A week later, I had 40+ sales. Within a month I had over 200 sales. That was over a year ago. I am now doing around 1000 sales a month.

So, my answer is yes, I really do believe that color and design affect the psychology of the buyer. Having studied Psychology when I was in University, I can say that color definitely plays a huge roll in the affects of human logic, mood, response, stimulation, and selection processes.

-Deb

<edited to add link>

This is the link to the studies. This is an ongoing project and study being conducted by Stanford University.

http://www.webcredibility.org/

[rhytha]

what you changed green to "i-dont-know-what-color" and increased your sales :cheers: can you let me on the sceret too. besides what does orange does to a user. jump up in joy, make him jump out of the window.:D

eagerly waiting for the links:thebomb:

[peter_d]

You might want to credit Elated.com and re-read their terms and conditions.

[WebSavvy]

Originally posted by peter_d
You might want to credit Elated.com and re-read their terms and conditions.

Peter_d, not sure what elated.com has to do with this? You lost me there.

[peter_d]

Does the template GE-OM look familiar?

http://www.elated.com/pagekits/

[WebSavvy]

Originally posted by peter_d
Does the template GE-OM look familiar?

http://www.elated.com/pagekits/


OK, LOL. Yes, I just saw that. I thought your comment was in relation to my site design (which I created myself).

My touching hands graphic started out as a fontbat. I had a picture I'd shot of a sunset in Hawaii over the ocean. I then colorized it in PSP. Then I did a slice on what was the sun, now looked like planet Earth. I placed it back over the original colorized photo and added the stars and smokey clouds. Then I did a flood fill on the fontbat and turned it into a picture tube and kept increasing the size to resave it to it's largest potential. Then formatted it as the picture tube, placed it over the Earth and added a collapsed starburst filter between the slightly spaced index fingers.

:D I think it looks rather well.

[Blue]

Hi rhytha,

I'm going to have to agree with the others. Tooooo orange. Not enough contrast. Hard on the eyes.

And especially what Doug said - no text on the home page. Personally, when I go to a business site looking for information, I want to see some of that right away. If I have to click through, without having at least an overview of what that business is about (in words, not images) and what they have to offer, I just leave.

That all said, I'll agree with Doug, again, in that your graphics are nice. They just don't sell me. I can view pretty pictures just by looking out my window. Info's what I'm after. I'm not saying not to have those nice graphics, but rather use them as a splash of color, to dress up your site....not as the main focus.

[sanity]

Originally posted by peter_d
Does the template GE-OM look familiar?

http://www.elated.com/pagekits/ Actually it does ;)

Personally I find the body font size far to small to read. I'd click off this page and go elsewhere pretty quick.

[peter_d]

I thought your comment was in relation to my site design

No, I wasn't referring to yours Savvy :)

[rhytha]

dough i just used thier squares, besides this is'nt my final site i'll make lot more modifications. i was just starting off with them as a skeleton. i know that the end product will be nothing similar to the elated. :o:

[rhytha]

:D BY the unanimous decision of this thread iam kicking out my old design and will be coming out with a new design within tommorow until then plz keep this thread alive.:cheers:

[ihelpyou]

Yes, many use a template when starting a new design and make many changes to it. Your site was not live yet so all is fine. :) Make sure you show us your final page when completed. Good luck!

[kneelsit]

the first 6 months with that "very green design" I saw lots of traffic but NO sales.

Wow - did you start me thinking Deb, I had forgotten all about the color psychology I had learnt in Psych. and like you I have been going with green for over a year now - just cause I like it.

Have changed over to my original colors for the time being and hope it might make a difference. Also am looking at my copy again to see what I had when my sales were at a max.

Would very much appreciate comments on the new colors please gals guys. :)

While you are waiting for Rytha's new work that is. :D

[peter_d]

Looks good, kneelsit.

I think the warmer colours suit your product as you need to emphasise comfort. Reds, browns, etc.

[kneelsit]

Thanks Peter_d,

BTW Rytha I just had a look at the standard HTML colors - you might try #FFFFCC as a background to your present logos, before you go altering things too much.

[sanity]

That looks heaps batter Kneelsit. Far more welcoming. Let us know whether the sales change...

[WebSavvy]

Hi Greg, I like the colors you have now much better. I have a background set you may like, and will give it to you if you'd like.

It's warm brown and red tones with autumn leaves. It's really quite beautiful and I think it'd work well with what you have. Please email me at home Greg, you have the email address.

Just thought I'd post this link because I thought some of you may enjoy reading this information on color and psychology.


http://www.para.com/pages/color/psych.htm

[kneelsit]

Thanks Sophie and Deb for you comments and re-assurance regarding the change. Sometimes we are too close to our own creations and its great to be able to get the feedback.

Have emailed you on your kind offer Deb.

Enjoyed getting acquainted again on colour psychology.

:)

[rhytha]

:( guys i have only finished few pages so bear with the slow loading pages.
as for the design iam going the orthodox,conservative, old, gothic design of "me-to-a-webhosting-firm" template.8)
i want to know whether the plugin image is kind of confusing or good. only the "search..." "webhosting" links will be working. plz post your comments. i know there is a lot to do but your expert comments will help me achiving the result thru a shortcut. .:p :D

keenlsit you design chairs, imagin me trying to design simple square website which only has to look good when seen from any 800x600 square box , cool:cheers:. ;) can u design me a chair, where my body can lay down comfortably flat on the floor with my head directly towards the celing, my hands be able to move the mouse&type the keyboard and my legs wraped around a nice sensous,beautiful PILLOW(hehe), and still be able to make a all those stupid mistakes i usually make over and over again when i try to design a website.:D jokes apart i dont get what your trying to say about the bg color, you want me to change the page bg(cccccc) color or my logo bg color from white to ffffcc??:)

:cool: savvy orange does'nt seem to be that bad color after all to use in businees, the para.com too says orange means "happy, confident, creative, adventures". anybody saw the new microsoft .net ads they feature orange. but regadring influencing a user to buy, will orange help??? you have to enlighten us.:D also the para website has small error, instead of a yellow image they have a light orange image under yellow. :D

[kneelsit]

Rytha,

What I was suggesting was that you keep SOME orange in the page with your logo but use that #FFFFCC as a page <bgcolor> for contrast. It is subtle and contains a fair number of the orange tone components without being too much "in your face" as having the whole page background done in orange.

BTW you know someone has designed a chair pretty much like you describe only thing is I think it ran out at around 3 grand or so. :D

[Blue]

I like it MUCH better, rhytha! I see TEXT on the page that tells me, right off the bat, what your site is about. It held my interest and I actually read the whole page.

I think you've done very well.

:cheers:

[kneelsit]

Hi Rhytha,

Like the new look especially the fingers around the mobile phone
- for a minute though I thought I had stumbled into a "porn" site, those 2 fingers beside the thumb are quite erotic! :D or maybe you are just "giving them the finger" as we would say here in Oz.

BTW if you try the bgcolor I suggested for your page color and use a very dark blue for the text I think it may have more impact than your present ordinary black on white.

Also what about editing your profile and putting your site url up
so we don't have to click back to see what you have done. :)

[rhytha]

porno, oh my god. :( is the first impression makes you think its a porno site, :o: kneelsit if every body agrees then i have to change the home page image.its not a mobile its a laptop.
ok i'll try those suggestion. blue thanks for the valuable comments.:D
ok heres the url http://www.rhytha.com/new/

[rhytha]

:D guys i just finished the bulk work, i just have to slice and optimize the images for fast download and small edits, :)could you guys take a look again. and give me your feedback.:p

http://www.rhytha.com/new/index.htm

[scottiecl]

Very clean and professional.

I did NOT think I was at a porn site. Kneelsit, you are making quite a leap there... guess we know how your mind works~:rolleyes: LOL

[kneelsit]

Boy oh boy!! ah well, I have always had an interest in erotica - but I guess I should tone down my musings for the benefit of our more inhibited cousins. :D

Rhytha what you have written is great but I still think it would be improved with the addition of a pale background colour on the page and a dark blue text. IMHO it is lacking any lustre - I am speaking solely from the visual aspect. Colour would give it more impact. You seem to have done a complete 180 degree turn from vivid orange to boring black on white. - no offence meant just trying to be constructive. :)

[WebSavvy]

Hi Greg, I'm going to re-skin the autumn leaves graphic set tonight so the buttons will reflect your links text. Also, CSS positioning is used to place content in the lighter skinned area with this graphics set, but overall ... I think you will love it! :)

You'll have control over it with the included style sheet. The pages will need to not extend beyond 250 words per page as that is what the lighter skinned area can accommodate without flowing past the edge parameters.

I'll put it in your shell later tonight as we discussed in email.

Cheers me ole mucker!

-Deb

[rhytha]

guys i have made two small changes and i want u guys to vote for the better one. i have changed the bg color for web design page and i have carryed out what kneelsit had suggested change the bg color to ffffcc and font color to blue.:D thats in web hosting page

i need u guys to choose the better one.:)
thanx:p

http://www.rhytha.com/new/index.htm

[kneelsit]

Rhytha - your pale yellow background and bright blue text make it easier to read, but why bring in red and mix it with the blue text - also you need to think carefully about what link color you will decide on for your active link. Remember the blue you have chosen for text is the common default color for the active link. YOU don't have to stick with that of course you could choose red - in which case DON'T use it for emphasis elsewhere on your page.

Like the flowers much better than the inside of the power room ( in your design page) but your black on blue writing tends to fade into the background. BTW the pale yellow background was just a suggestion to give contrast to the bright orange in your original logos. Why not experiment a bit more and see how dark blue text on pale blue background looks?

[WebSavvy]

OK Greg, I re-skinned the autumn leaves graphic set to suit your needs as such, due to your button link requirements from the index page (the original set did not have as many buttons and the layout was slightly different).

This is a scaled down version of the image as I have not yet sliced it. It uses an image map and CSS positioning for layout control.

I wanted to know first, if you like this, before I continue to map and slice the image and do the CSS sheet for the layout. If you don't like it, then I won't do the slice, map, & css.

If you do not care to use it, you will not hurt my feelings by saying so, honestly. :)

The URL is here:
http://announce.esubmit-it.com/Greg.html

Please let me know what you think. The area where text is placed has a gray colorization (only in this image) due to being scaled down.

The actual set has a transparency there and it looks very well.

[kneelsit]

Hi Deb - my old mate! :) I like it! I like it! but we better stop meeting like this or people might start talking. :D

Did you get my last email - I'll send you another with my questions tonight (Sydney time)

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Greg.

Addendum:- Sorry if this is confusing to you Rhytha ;)

[WebSavvy]

OK ... glad you like the layout. OK, I will do the slice, map & css file and shoot it up to your shell in the next day or two. I have a few pressing tasks to get completed with, firstly.

I didn't get your email Greg. Did you send it to me at the business email? Haven't checked that yet. You can just send it to me at my home email, you have that already.

:D

[rhytha]

guys thanks for all the great help

:D since iam having little time(sic!) to experiment with the fonts and backgrounds i am leaving the site as it is.

this thread is closed for now.;)

[kneelsit]

O.K. I know Rytha started this thread originally but a few of you asked me to get back to you on the effect of changing my colors from the green to my original burgundy and cream.

Not a true test I guess, since I also re-worked my index page - but sales definitely picked up over the past few days. :D

Regarding the re-work - sometimes what we said originally often had more impact than what we say now. Maybe the enthusiasm etc. of 5 years back had become diluted. Certainly my major critic
and helpmate was great and pulled no punches.

Have to buy her a nice meal I guess on the proceeds :D