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Mel
23-08-2001, 11:04/11:04AM
Hi Guys an gals;

While many of us have our own set of tools we use to check our sites before we turn them loose on an unsuspecting world, many are not so fortunate.

Search Engine World has put together a nice set of Free online tools HERE (http://www.searchengineworld.com/misc/tools.htm) which will:

The Themes Inspector will have a look at your themes.
Check your web page sizes with the WebPage Size Checker.
Sim Spider will show you how a spider sees your site.
Check your html with the html validator.
Double check your robots.txt with the robots.txt validator.
Check your Link Popularity with the Linkage Reporter.
Check your pages with the Keyword Density Analyzer
MazY
23-08-2001, 11:18/11:18AM
Phew! Ya just saved my rankings from a fate worse than death. Seems I had mistyped in my robots.txt file and had Disallow@ as opposed to Disallow:

Methinks the spider would have coughed and spluttered a tad.

Whoops. Goes to show - always pays to check, check and check again!
ihelpyou
23-08-2001, 11:22/11:22AM
Yep. Ol' Brett is a sharp cookie.
JuniorHarris
23-08-2001, 11:29/11:29AM
LOL! Just curious how you did that Maz? The ":" and "@" are quite separate on my keyboard!!! I thought your mum taught you never to program after visiting the pub!~

<urp!> :eek:
Lezzsee, r-r-robots.txt....<urp>...spell colon....<urp>...."@"...<urp>...allow: fosters...<urp>...
MazY
23-08-2001, 11:36/11:36AM
lol On the superior keyboards (the UK ones) these keys are right next each other.

Anyway - I don't drink so there. :smart: I'm one of those that becomes an instant SuperMan who can take on the whole world when he drinks so to save my face from becoming full time black and blue I decided many moons ago not to drink at all. My Brother has my share for me!
JuniorHarris
23-08-2001, 12:05/12:05PM
Somehow I figured you'd say as much! But hey, your secret is safe with me, er, us!~ <wink>

Interesting to know UK keyboards are different...
MazY
23-08-2001, 12:18/12:18PM
The US/UK keyboards are very different. I used to get so many support calls from users that had new Windows installations where the support operatives had not changed the default keyboard layout on the install.

Ergo, when the user wanted a "@" they would have to know that to get that then they have to type SHIFT+2, I believe.

Makes for a laughable view I tell you!
ihelpyou
23-08-2001, 12:25/12:25PM
hey Maz, I want one of those.....
MazY
23-08-2001, 12:28/12:28PM
Just change your Windows keyboard layout from US English to British Engish for a while. Hours of fun I tell ya! :D
markymark
23-08-2001, 15:39/03:39PM
While we almost still on the subject of search engine tools - has anyone else checked out www.sitecook.com - online position checker thing. Looks pretty good to me.
JuniorHarris
24-08-2001, 12:23/12:23PM
MazY you made me nervous so I decided to check my robots.txt too...thanfully it checked out ok.
MazY
24-08-2001, 12:25/12:25PM
Oh yeah Just rub it in why don't ya! lol
JuniorHarris
24-08-2001, 13:03/01:03PM
<lol> Not really trying to rub it in, but it did make me think to check ours, since it has been awhile since its creation.
martekbiz
03-12-2002, 17:56/05:56PM
An explanation please...

Hi all.. using the tool mentioned.. I checked a currently being developed sites HTML to see if it is valid.

Here are some errors returned that I can't figure out:



11 57 document type does not allow element "LINK" here <link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css">
13 35 there is no attribute "TOPMARGIN" ... <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" margin ... (explanation)
13 50 there is no attribute "LEFTMARGIN" ... "#FFFFFF" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marg ... (explanation)
13 67 there is no attribute "MARGINHEIGHT" ... in="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" link= ... (explanation)
13 83 there is no attribute "MARGINWIDTH" ... n="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" link="blue" alin ... (explanation)
13 124 document type does not allow element "BODY" here ... ginwidth="0" link="blue" alink="blue" vlink="blue">




Now.. when I take out the margin attribute tags in the <BODY> tag as expected the layout is messed up. How are these attributes NOT valid HTML code?

Secondly... why is the LINK attribute in my external CSS file not valid?

What about the BODY comment they have? they have the "l" highlighted in the entire line - vlink="blue" - why is this wrong?

Been designing for years and never knew this wasn't valid.. any thoughts? PLEASE?

Thanks.

Aaron
martekbiz
04-12-2002, 09:27/09:27AM
bump...

sorry people for the quick bump.. but really looking for some info on my post. I don';t understand :confused:

Thanks.

Aaron
Daminc
13-01-2003, 07:40/07:40AM
Hi Aaron,

I read this from a HTML reference guide:

Internet Explorer supports a few special attributes for the <BODY> element that may solve the background image and layout problems without resorting to style sheets. The BGPROPERTIES attribute offers a solution to the problem of scrolling background images. At present, however, it is only supported by Internet Explorer 3 and above.

The <BODY> element's attribute and value BGPROPERTIES="fixed" will, under Internet Explorer, allow text and images to scroll while the background image accessed with the BACKGROUND] attribute remains in place. The only value for this attribute is [b]fixed.

The <BODY> element also allows the setting of margins; but, so far, this is only realized under Internet Explorer. There are two <BODY> attributes that affect margins:

LEFTMARGIN and TOPMARGIN.

Each is set with a number value. For example, LEFTMARGIN="25" will create a margin of 25 pixels between the left edge of the browser window and its content; TOPMARGIN="15" will create a 15-pixel margin between the top of the browser window and its content, as well as at the bottom if the content extends that far.

Perhaps the errors are saying that some of the attributes that you are using may not work on all browsers?
ihelpyou
13-01-2003, 09:22/09:22AM
Pageoneresults has a good explanation for your problem in here somewhere. Do a search for "topmargin" or leftmargin to find the posts by him.
ihelpyou
13-01-2003, 09:25/09:25AM
Found it:
You'll need to learn a little bit of css to eliminate the above. In your external style sheet, put this in your body rule...

body{position:absolute;top:0px;left:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;}

That will take care of the margin issues. Your body tag should be empty with the exception of any javascript events.
Daminc
13-01-2003, 11:02/11:02AM
Hi Doug,

Perhaps the errors are saying that some of the attributes that you are using may not work on all browsers?

Could this observation be valid :confused:
ihelpyou
13-01-2003, 11:04/11:04AM
Oh yes. I agree with that completely. :)
Daminc
13-01-2003, 12:35/12:35PM
:cool: Cool :up:
eonlinedesign
29-05-2003, 23:19/11:19PM
HI,

Newbie here.

So using robots.txt in your root server. Scale of 1 to 10 how effective is it in helping to optimize search engine optimation or is it just code that says which files can be published to the search engines?

thanks
mncsc
30-05-2003, 00:16/12:16AM
Hello eonlinedesign, welcome to the forums.
:hi:

You'll have to spend a month reading every thread here to get a better overall picture of SEO, but to answer your immediate question:

A robots.txt file is used to exclude certain files or directories from a search engine spider's consideration - that is, if the spider is programmed to "obey" the robots.txt file.

In that sense, it has no (positive) SEO effect on positions. It's often used to prevent spidering of duplicate content that might incur a penalty.

Enjoy your Reading :cheers:
Webmaster T
30-05-2003, 00:24/12:24AM
The validator will only validate tags in the specification neither of those are in the specification they are proprietary, one set is MS one Netscape. You put both in to accomadate both browsers. Personally I don't like CSS I'll use these over it any day since version 4 browsers never did do CSS very well.
Webnauts
09-06-2003, 20:45/08:45PM
It would be worth to have a look at this tool too:

http://www.delorie.com/web/ses.cgi

and some instructions by designing tables for search engines:

http://www.delorie.com/web/ses-hint.html

Good luck!
Webnauts
09-02-2004, 11:15/11:15AM
What about having a look at the page I have build, with all in one validators: http://www.webnauts.net/check.html
AsimIqbal
18-02-2004, 21:32/09:32PM
Originally posted by Mel
Hi Guys an gals;

While many of us have our own set of tools we use to check our sites before we turn them loose on an unsuspecting world, many are not so fortunate.

Search Engine World has put together a nice set of Free online tools HERE (http://www.searchengineworld.com/misc/tools.htm) which will:

The Themes Inspector will have a look at your themes.
Check your web page sizes with the WebPage Size Checker.
Sim Spider will show you how a spider sees your site.
Check your html with the html validator.
Double check your robots.txt with the robots.txt validator.
Check your Link Popularity with the Linkage Reporter.
Check your pages with the Keyword Density Analyzer


I know one free online tool website, may be usefull for some, but that site belongs to the company i work for so i need permission before posting the link, so it don't end up as a spam post.

Thanks.

:p
WebSavvy
18-02-2004, 21:47/09:47PM
You can post the link and no one is going to think it's a spam post for heavens sake. :)
AsimIqbal
18-02-2004, 22:12/10:12PM
http://www.InformationCrawler.com
WebSavvy
20-02-2004, 19:10/07:10PM
Hi Asim, I took a look at the tools there and tried them out, very nice. :)
AsimIqbal
21-02-2004, 01:14/01:14AM
Glad you like it. However most of them are in beta stage and the main project is "webmining spider" and "webservices search engine" .Web mining will have many more services as lot of time is been spend on analysing the gather data by spiders .This is just a demo of things to come.

Web mining depends on agents , robots , aggregators to fetch the data and text-processing and data-analysis tools that help users uncover target words or concepts contained in large document collections.

It is a analysis engine that can sniff out its own clues about a document’s meaning and then provide insight into what the search results mean in aggregate.

In near future the information about any website or business will be broken down into differet sections to provide better uderstanding of users business.

Web mining spider will allow companies to keep track of their online reputation.

:D
WebSavvy
21-02-2004, 01:21/01:21AM
It sounds interesting. What language are you programming in, e.g., PHP, Perl, etc.?

Is this also a project that you're personally involved in working on? How will the web mining spider be able to determine these factors? Will it depend on special meta identifiers used specifically by your application in order to classify the documents in its index?

I'm really very interested in programming, data mining/retrieval, etc. I program and develop all of my own stuff too. :)
AsimIqbal
21-02-2004, 02:32/02:32AM
Originally posted by savvy1
It sounds interesting. What language are you programming in, e.g., PHP, Perl, etc.?

Is this also a project that you're personally involved in working on? How will the web mining spider be able to determine these factors? Will it depend on special meta identifiers used specifically by your application in order to classify the documents in its index?

I'm really very interested in programming, data mining/retrieval, etc. I program and develop all of my own stuff too. :)

Yes, i am part of team working on this project. Because of their "Non-Disclosure Agreement" i cannot provide much information on that project implementation, however i can state my point of views.

This project use more than one programming language.My language of chioce is JAVA. Webminning is very interested topic and most of the search engine companies spend much time and resources on this topic.

It is very hard to explain concepts here , i can suggest you some links and in short time we will post technical papers, code examples, tools and resources in upcoming section "web mining" on our site under "tutorials" section.


Currently you will find few links to programming tutorials on the left menu under "tutorials", including JAVA , see also java servlets and JSP(java server pages) for web programming.

Main site can be reached at : http://www.ObjectsDevelopment.com

More resources will be posted related to webmining and programming languages.

There are already few examples in perl and other languages to get data from websites, see also "code snippets" section too.

I will suggest you to look at the "XML" language tutorials also as it plays important part in webmining projects.


:cool:
dvlop
02-04-2008, 14:48/02:48PM
Here i found free online Keyword Density Checker

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ihelpyou
02-04-2008, 15:02/03:02PM
Spamming forums with crap is not cool buddy.
James Peter
13-12-2008, 20:04/08:04PM
Hey Mel,
Thanks for the tips on the tools. The Sim spider looks really interesting. I'll probably end up using more than one of these. Thanks again. Peace.