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junior
25-10-2002, 12:20/12:20PM
Yeeha my first post!!

I am currently running an online marketing campaign for a client in the printing industry.

As part of the campaign I have managed to obtain 82 themed links relevant to my clients business.

The only problem is that Google only seems to be indexing at the most 50% of these links. WHY?

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Junior

:cheers:

french dread
25-10-2002, 12:30/12:30PM
Greetings Junior and welcome :)

Well, if you use the link command on google or the toolbar, google will show you only website with high PR, 4 if i ain't wrong.
You can find more links in google by querying in google your url instead of using the link command (it doesn't always work)

It can happen too that some linking websites are not in the google index, or the linking pages are not crawlable by search engines (ie javascript or cgi scripts, flash websites etc...)

Tell us our url, we could help more

Alan Perkins
25-10-2002, 12:34/12:34PM
Welcome junior :hi:

What french dread said. In short, Google doesn't report everything it knows, nor does it necessarily know everything.

french dread
25-10-2002, 12:39/12:39PM
I don't know if i was clear so here is an exemple :

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=link:LE9JXbLbu1wC:[url]www.earthcultureroots.com

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22www.earthcultureroots.com%22

junior
28-10-2002, 12:28/12:28PM
Thanks guys,

I've been to Google and checked my links using link:www.?????.com and found that each of the sites that have been indexed have a PR of 4 or above.

I then checked for links using "www.?????.com" and all the links to me have a PR lower than 4. However one of the most important links that should be there is not. An ODP listing.

I have been listed in the ODP for 3 months and I know there have been a few technical problems during that time even today but surley Google should be indexing this link.

I know it is said that it is better for Google to find a link by itself, but could it hurt to give it a few directions.

Say I built a network/community page of all the sites that link to me and Google indexed this page, would the links to me then be indexed.

Any ideas!!

french dread
28-10-2002, 12:39/12:39PM
Junior you should give us the adress of your website so we can help you.
I think there was some re-organization of odp recently, like changing categories etc this could explain that.
In no way submitting to google can hurt your ranking, it is urban myth imho. Submitting is not a guarantee to be indexed, but it could speed up process if your website is quite new. If your site is already popular, no need to submit as google will find it by itself

french dread
28-10-2002, 12:41/12:41PM
also consider submiiting your website to other free directories such as goguides.org and joeant.com

junior
28-10-2002, 12:50/12:50PM
Client site www.panasonic-europe.com.

Goguides and joeant great I have been submitting to these directories for the last 6-7 months and am really impressed with the time it takes them to index new submissions.

Thanks French Dread.:cheers:

kneelsit
28-10-2002, 18:09/06:09PM
Just to make you feel better junior why not go across to AlltheWeb and type "link.all:" before your url into the search bar.
You will be pleasantly surprised.

As far as google's links are concerned it seems to be as Frenchdread says.

scottiecl
28-10-2002, 23:55/11:55PM
Hi :hi:

Great to have you here!

For even more fun, go to www.marketleap.com and use their link checking tool. See your links across several engines as well as your competitors. You can alsoo check to see how many pages each engine has indexed of the site.

french dread
29-10-2002, 04:43/04:43AM
I have been listed in the ODP for 3 months and I know there have been a few technical problems during that time even today but surley Google should be indexing this link.

seem google has indexed the odp link as the description appears in google.
see http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=www%2Epanasonic%2Deurope%2Ecom

BTW you should put some kewords ie (product related) in the title it is not really optimized

junior
29-10-2002, 05:13/05:13AM
Thanks Everyone !

I used www.marketleap.com for a linkpop check and was really surprised with the results. 148 Google, 6091 All the Web.

What is bothering me are the results I'm getting using the keyword Panasonic in Google. I am listed on the third page behind some poorer sites who have less links than me.

I wondered if the link text and page title of the sites linking to me were affecting the ranking so ran an optilink check and found that some of the links don't even have panasonic in the link text just europe portal, also I have looked at some of the sites I'm linked to and found that the links are either contained in frames, cromeless windows or the link is dynamic could these be the reasons why the site has a poor listing and what could I do to remedy this.