French news search engine

[french dread]

Deepindex, a french SE just released a news SE searching news in french language. A french language alternative to google news :) the service is beta now and should be official in some weeks
see http://www.news.deepindex.com

[DeepIndex]

Hi,

yes we launched DeepIndex News a week ago and wanted to test the capabilities to quick crawl the press. In fact when google started to launch google News we wondered why there was no french spoken information ?? ...

I didn't found the answer... so DeepIndex News went up. It is in the same way that DeepIndex was launched. DeepIndex is a general french spoken search engine which was launched in last june. End of July DeepIndex signed up with Francité and discussion are opened with other major portals... that's for the commercial side.

DeepIndex News is the talk...

The news crawler spiders all press and journalistic websites every day (more or less 100.000 articles) and while we are in beta version we would like to have bug reports,suggestions and criticisme for this particular searchengine.

The service stays fully free for anyone after launching public version which should be around the 15 novembre. Some people told us to put some search options in it, others suggests new sources. Any body is welcome, cause DeepIndex News is a non commercial project...

Any questions ? just ask, you're welcome.

the urls :

DeepIndex News
http://www.news.deepindex.com
Sources
http://www.news.deepindex.com/liens.php

Best regards

[Alan Perkins]

Welcome to the forums Gilbert :hi:

Thanks for that info. :thumb:

Please tell us as much as you can about DeepIndex...

Does it live up to its name? ;)
Indexing frequency?
Spider agent name?
Number of searches per day?
Where do the searchers come from?

... and DeepIndex News ...

What qualifies as news?

[french dread]

Hello gilbert and welcome :)

Are there some directories crawled by Deepindex to find new websites? Are there any specifities that the Se has different from other SEs?

[DeepIndex]

hi Alan,

first of all, don't matter me about my english, it has got rusty with the years...

Well it's all in the name ;-)

DeepIndexer (the user agent of the crawler) run's freely every month around the web. There are 2 robots, one in France and another in montreal (canada). The third one is dedicated to DeepIndex News.

DeepIndex crawls also on demand, like Altavista and Inktomi, but with the major difference, DeepIndex crawls nearly every page of the costumers site. The on demand fee is once for all, no renewal. The costumers sites are refreshed every week in the index making optimisation easier.

For the moment the project is limited for french spoken web, but if we get a chance, we might go international.

Searches come from many sites, as we do have a program for webmasters to include DeepIndex on their site, but mostly thetrafic comes from Francité, Francesurf, and DeepIndex in itself. Actually we have an internal trafic sized at about 20.000 search requests a day, but it varies depending on a lot of factors...

i think this is not bad for a start, as we did only press clippings...

Our hope is to go on the international marketed as soon as possible, but this is entirely depending on our financial situation, as we didn't raised any funds (we are open to it) and every thing is financed by costumers...

for DeepIndex news, i do qualify the press sites, and the crawler does the rest (he doesn't follow outside the press site).

More questions ?

You and the members are welcome, i 'm trying to answer as well as possible, even in rusty english ;-)

Regards to all

[french dread]

Some other questions :D :

-As a SE owner what is your opinion on "optimized and/or hidden pages"? Are they a plague for you, or not bad when serving relevancy?

-How deepindex makes the distinction between french speaking page and non french? (as i noticed some english results appear sometimes)

[DeepIndex]

DeepIndex distinguish the language in the meta tag language and in the charset options.

It is normal that you found english sites, cause we would like to run on english spoken sector as well. So we made some testing. You should also find on certain expression japanese or chinese pages... but i think you will (as me) have some problems in comprehension... ;-)

insome case i hate satelite pages (adult sites abuse of the technic) but mostly, if they are done by serious companies, it might help for the relavancy. We do track, but exception of the spamdexing (pages with no interest for the searchers) we do accept these technics.

[french dread]

DeepIndex distinguish the language in the meta tag language and in the charset options.

If a page don't use these tags, isn't there some content analysis (ie accentued characters) to determine language?
How is seen a page without tags by default? as french, or rejected?

[DeepIndex]

Oups, sorry,

DeepIndex crawls of course some directories to find other and new pages... The big ones of course but also some others. Yahoo, Dmoz, Nomade (tiscali), FranceSurf. In the case of Dmoz, we have crawled a first time only the french side, but we pushed now the root directory of each major language... But this is for the next big one... ;-)

[Alan Perkins]

Originally posted by DeepIndex
DeepIndex crawls also on demand, like Altavista and Inktomi, but with the major difference, DeepIndex crawls nearly every page of the costumers site. The on demand fee is once for all, no renewal. The costumers sites are refreshed every week in the index making optimisation easier.Interesting approach - that's the first pricing model that Yahoo.com had. They now charge every year. You and the members are welcome, i 'm trying to answer as well as possible, even in rusty english ;-) Your English is very good, far far better than my French. I don't mean to make fun, but I must point out that "costumers" are people who make or supply clothing for plays/films - "customers" is the word you meant. I would not have bothered, but "customer" is a very important word. :)

[DeepIndex]

no we do not reject page because of it's language. Most charset are know, but some times it doesn't look nice, and our visitors tell us when a page does not correspond with the language. We then check out in the databases and modify by hand...

[DeepIndex]

Alan,

i'm not yahoo! (yet) ;-).

Yes customers are the most important and i do love them. They need fair pricing and deepIndex needs money, but not just for the money.

when i started to think about the project, i had a problem, i was SEO like you and many others here, and i pointed out that charging every year is good for my pocket, but makes it costs to high for the medium and small companies (when you submit to every body, it's costs a lot). I also pointed out that if Google and Yahoo have it all, then they cn charge as much as they want, wich isn't good either. Of course DeepIndex does not have the market scale of Yahoo and Google (it's alive for 4 month only), but in my opinion there must be challengers to keep the market animated and sain.

Perhaps DeepIndex will be a challenger perhaps not, but it's undenyable that challengers are needed on the market, and it's undenyable that costumers need to be found on most SE, which is good for SEO as well.