Anyone heard of Salsa or Top-Pile?

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by big blue
I now work for the 2nd largest classified web page in the U.K. As the Bus Dev Mngr.
Originally posted by big blue
The site I work for has over 10 MILLION unique uses / month. 1 in 2 people in the U.K are aware of the brand. 1 in 3 people have used it to purchase products.

I manage a combined marketing budget of £8 MILLION, spead over all media from sports events. TV, radio, print and the web. With a overall company marketing budget of nearly £30 MILLION.
Originally posted by big blue
we are number 1 for all our keywords in all S.E's anyway. My main concern is R.O.I. and the amount we pay/keyword. Cars, Homes and Jobs, along those lines.

Best get looking for a new job ... unless this lot was lies, too!

[big blue]

why? you gonna tell the techer on me.

Last last word

[big blue]

Quad what is the name of your business?
We have probably met

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by big blue
why? you gonna tell the techer on me.

Last last word

1. Yeppers; I am
2. Liar. You'll be back.

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by big blue
Quad what is the name of your business?
We have probably met Nice try. I don't have one.

[big blue]

You don't have a business :/

You don't work? or you don't want to be revealed?

[ihelpyou]

He's not hiding. There is a url in his profile. Quite unlike you who is hiding behind a monitor screen. :)

[Quadrille]

I don't have a business; just a set of web sites that cover their costs, and, with honest SEO, will provide a nice pension ;)

I work - nothing to do with SEO - but searchable, I suppose.

My current stalker (glengara) took three weeks to find my name and another two weeks before he discovered my web sites; but he's not too bright. My previous stalker had the lot in a week.

An intelligent person should take, oh, 12 minutes? :thebomb:

[big blue]

What you think you have interested me enough, for me to actually do research on you?

Get over yourself.

"Quadrille" lol

[Quadrille]

Well, you did ask - and knowing the way you work, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. I find that spammers and stalkers have an amazing affinity. I suspect it's a perversion of "information is power".

No point blackmailing me; (a) no money (b) nothing to hide (c) no shame 8)

[ihelpyou]

There are ways for us to find out your identity however. I strongly dislike people who cry and whine while hiding behind a computer screen. Those types are wussies. They love to dish it out at a distance, but are afraid to show their face while doing so. Such wussies.

Would be pretty cool to notify your boss about this thread. I'd rather tell them how stupid they are for doing what they are doing, than telling you the same thing. :)

[big blue]

ihelpyou.
yes I feel exactly the same way. thats why I don't issue personal slurs on peoples character over the net, I left name calling in the play ground.

Just to recap: We don't use any spamming at all. read previous threads
But I am researching new ways to improve R.O.I. Is that wrong?

Are we all sheep. do we all have to have the same ideals?

As I mentioned earlier, I came for a debate on spam, what is considerd spam, who defines what spam is and are they correct??

Obviously you can't help

Thanks anyway i"can't" help you.

Quad you'll never get anywhere with that attitude. instead of recognising a business oppertunity and even the oppertunity to perhaps change my mind and profit from it, you just issued derogitory remarks with no basis. Wher e you sites/ income seem to be a good indication og how your mentality has inhibited your development.

ihelpyou.. please ban me from this forum, i don't want the temptation to come back and let you know how purile youre arguments have been, and how you have strengthend my resolve, to continue on my quest to find new ways to improve our R.O.I.

I am sure I have given you enough information to find out whom I work for. if Quad has'nt realised he should think about retiring now or perhaps a pub job would be more suitable

I am a capatalist not a socialist

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by big blue
Quad you'll never get anywhere with that attitude. instead of recognising a business oppertunity and even the oppertunity to perhaps change my mind and profit from it, you just issued derogitory remarks with no basis. Wher e you sites/ income seem to be a good indication og how your mentality has inhibited your development. Surely, mister "Are we all sheep", that rather depends where I want to go?

Maybe I don't want a business opportunity that requires lying, cheating and putting a brass face on it; maybe I don't want to profit from you in any way - and I sure have no illusions about chnaging your mind. I'm no Mary Poppins, thanks.

Despite your in-depth research, you have zero idea of my ideals, my mentality or my development; suffice it to say, I've declined many opportunities that would have made me much richer, and still honest. So ripping off a few clients holds little appeal.

But for some of us, there are motivators other than money. I have enough; why would I want more? No. I didn't think you'd get your head around that one.

[ihelpyou]

Great avatar Q !! :cheers:

[Connie]

The "Duke" is one of my favorites. :cheers: :cheers:

[ihelpyou]

with a

"white hat"

as well. :D

[Quadrille]

Bleached specially!

"I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be goddamn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble" ~ John Wayne

[spectregunner]

The only issue I ahve with all of this is that you forgot to refer to big blue as pilgrim.

:lol: :lol:

[big blue]

Wow! that is sooOOooo original four eyes. Did you steal it from the Romans.

[spectregunner]

How thoroughly childish.

Your three minutes of fame have ended, perhaps you should move on to another forum, someplace where they will appreciate you.

You have worn out your welcome here.

[ihelpyou]

LOL Let's not forget this was a company who was asked to "speak" at a few SES conferences.

This goes to the point about this industry and so-called leaders touting spammers, etc and allowing spammers to gain clients through their SES conference.

Gee wiz, funny that SEW or the conference did not make any comment about this company all the sudden going out of business and leaving clients holding the bag?

I wonder why?

[big blue]

Originally posted by spectregunner
How thoroughly childish.

1)
Is this the same person who's first words to me were name calling ??? beggars belief.
2)
[nasty stuff deleted ~ Q]
3)
erm... I don't think I was ever welcome here ( at least thats the impession I get) :P
4)
CAN you read? there are 14 pages for you to do some research before you type inane responses.

ihelpyouNOT - This will be my last posting here I promise.

Top-Pile ran into difficulties because they were winning. SE's had to find a new way.
from what I understand all clients were covered by a full money back garantee.

Anyway this conversation has run on long enough.

Thank you it's been interesting.

[Quadrille]

big blue, small brain, whatever ...

You are a fool and a liar; and, yes, you are childish and and spiteful.

You've promised before (severaltimes) to go away and not come back, but you are like a dog sniffing its own mess - you just have to come back. And you will.

You just make the promise hoping we'll not bother to ban you - if you promised on your mother's life, you'd be an orphan in two minutes.

Sad man, sad man.

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by big blue
Top-Pile ran into difficulties because they were winning. Yeah, I'd go bust if I was winning, too. Twit.
from what I understand all clients were covered by a full money back guarantee.You would say that, of course .. staunchly loyal to the man that sacked you.

Or are you the man that sacked you?

[ihelpyou]

Now that's an interesting thought. This could be him.

This is a spammer who is giving our readers good information about the mindset of really stupid spammers. I am being edged away from the thought of banning him as it's really good food for thought, and might even help readers in here to understand that spammers "cannot win".

Going into the future some more, and I'll bet top dollar that ALL spammers will wither up and die eventually. The engines are getting better and better and better at weeding out the scummy ways. Link exchange crap that "USE" to work is no longer working anymore. Other forms of spam are being detected much better. The business of being a spammer will become a non-business proposition anymore. Just watch.

[Daminc]

and I'll bet top dollar that ALL spammers will wither up and die eventually.
It seems like someone is getting impatient:

Russian spammer found beaten to death (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2140340/russian-spammer-murdered)

[Quadrille]

We've got a thread on that:

Russian Spammer Murdered (http://www.ihelpyouservices.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19602&highlight=russian+spammer)

[Daminc]

Sorry about that :)

I got an email notification that someone posted here so I can staight to this thread. I can't believe this thread is still active.

:hi: :hi: :hi:
Sorry, I haven't been around much but I've been so busy I haven't got time to do half the stuff I want to do :rolleyes:

[Quadrille]

Originally posted by Daminc
I can't believe this thread is still active.Only just; big blue (Or Beep Throat) pops in occasionally to spread a little sunshine; we always stand to attention, in case he decides to reveal his secret identity. The Washington Post is on standby.

[ihelpyou]

I just read all 14 pages of this thread "again".

It's a great thread. You all should read it.

BTW: VERY interesting that Top-Pile, a spammer who is "now" OUT OF BUSINESS, is who this thread is about, and how the SES conference "asked" this guy to speak. Interesting that the members in this thread who are debating "myself" and WT, Blue, Polarmate, etc, are the SAME members who are "gone" from this place. ... Hopefully for good.

What do those members have to say about this thread now? Oh, I see; You have NO comments now? LOL Too funny. Funny how things work out in the end, right?? :)

Peter_D
sanity
Kal
Medkraft
projectphp

where are you now? Are you embarrassed? You betcha you are.

[scottiecl]

Springer Forum Marketing at it's finest.
[URL removed / Admin]

[ihelpyou]

Oh, so you are part of the team who doesn't care if spammers give speeches? You also don't care what spammers do to the industry?

I'm glad to know that Scottie. Thanks for posting. Your url was removed as we don't allow advertising in here. Please read the guidelines. :)

BTW: I don't read your silly blog. I've heard about it however. I suggest you say what you have to say in this thread so my members know what you and projectphp are all about as well. And again; If all you want to do is advertise in here, I'm sure we can work out the fee for that. hmm. You state "I" am bored? Kind of ironic as your blog is the epitome of some people with nothing else to do.

[ihelpyou]

:bump:

lol ... made ya look.

[Connie]

lol ... made ya look.
Yep. :D :cheers:

[JohnC]

hehe .. to good. :D

[big blue]

made YOU look :)

[Quadrille]

Yawn.

I'm locking this tired and pointless deviation from a once-useful thread.

Doug may reopen it later ;)