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alvarido
29-12-2002, 16:17/04:17PM
Hi,
Could I get a site review please? http://www.WallStreet.us
Thank you
Henry
Advisor
29-12-2002, 18:10/06:10PM
Please tell us about your site first. Who's your target market, what do you hope to achieve with it, what are the keyword phrases you are trying to target, problem areas, etc.
Jill
alvarido
29-12-2002, 18:34/06:34PM
Originally posted by Advisor
Please tell us about your site first. Who's your target market, what do you hope to achieve with it, what are the keyword phrases you are trying to target, problem areas, etc.
Jill
Hi Jill,
WallStreet.us is a financial directory, has many links to web site also news web sites. I am getting lots of traffic from the rest of the world because I think that they are more used to there country code domain names like .uk, .jp and .ca and so on. My web site will be a site to find all information on WallStreet. The Target market is everyone that wants and needs info about stockmarket and needs a directory that they can find all the web sites that are on the internet that have what they are looking for. Keyword phrases that I'm trying to target is WallStreet stockmarket, trading, financial and banking, bonds, brokerage, day trading and just about all that is in the stockmarket that you see on my listed side bar. Problem areas thats what I like to know what do you see and any help you can give me. Thank You
Henry
Advisor
29-12-2002, 18:39/06:39PM
Okay, if it's a site about WallStreet and finance, etc., then why the ads on the front page for products that have nothing to do with it? Where's the info? It should be right there on the main page, you shouldn't have to click to it.
That's my first impression of looking at it.
Can you tell us what the purpose of the site is? What do you hope to achieve with it? Is it to simply give information? Get people to sign up for something? Entice people to buy something? Do you sell products or services, or do you plan to make money through the sale of ads?
Jill
alvarido
29-12-2002, 18:59/06:59PM
Originally posted by Advisor
Okay, if it's a site about WallStreet and finance, etc., then why the ads on the front page for products that have nothing to do with it? Where's the info? It should be right there on the main page, you shouldn't have to click to it.
That's my first impression of looking at it.
Can you tell us what the purpose of the site is? What do you hope to achieve with it? Is it to simply give information? Get people to sign up for something? Entice people to buy something? Do you sell products or services, or do you plan to make money through the sale of ads?
Jill
It si to simply give information like a directory or search engine were you find links to other web sites, but at WallStreet.us you are only going to find financial and stockmarket related web sites.
Anyone or any company can pay for an ad banner on the site, I am not only letting financial companies put ads here. it can be anyone, a car dealer, tv products, retailers an so on. So the money will can in the sales of ads.
Henry
scottiecl
29-12-2002, 23:26/11:26PM
You have a bunch of cross-linked sites as well as links from guestbooks and free classifieds. This is not a good way to go about getting your links.
This site is useless and serves no purpose except to promote the other cross-linked sites, IMO.
You have syndicated news feeds and a bunch of ads plus your "favorite sites".
You don't need a review- you need a better strategy. This one won't work.
alvarido
30-12-2002, 08:00/08:00AM
Originally posted by scottiecl
You have a bunch of cross-linked sites as well as links from guestbooks and free classifieds. This is not a good way to go about getting your links.
This site is useless and serves no purpose except to promote the other cross-linked sites, IMO.
You have syndicated news feeds and a bunch of ads plus your "favorite sites".
You don't need a review- you need a better strategy. This one won't work.
Hi, I do have guestbook links going to my web site , BUT i am NOT linking to them on my web site. These link in from the guestbooks and free classifieds and all the small search engines and directorys have helped get the site in the bigger search engine. If you know a way to get better links please let me know.
2. Yes I am promoting other web sites just like any other directory or search engine. The syndicated news feed is being used by many web sites, WallStreet.us is an information directory on financial and the stockmarket, you go to WallStreet.us and find the link to the web site you are looking for just like any other directory. In this directory any company can pay to put there ads on any page of this web site and the ads do not need to be about stocks or financial. What I need is to know what strategy is better then this. In my index page I do need to find were I can get stock info, up to date and so on, to make it better looking.
Henry
Advisor
30-12-2002, 08:58/08:58AM
Henry, do you have some original content somewhere?
Generally, the search engines aren't keen on listing sites that have no original content. If you really want to have a great site, you should add some of that. Either write your own articles, or enlist others to write some for you.
Good luck!
Jill
scottiecl
30-12-2002, 09:00/09:00AM
If you know a way to get better links please let me knowHave useful and unique content on your site so people will want to link to your site.
You seem sincere in wanting to know how to improve your site. You need UNIQUE content, not just a bunch of ads, free syndicated news feeds, and links to all your other sites.
A better strategy would be making a useful site that has something to bring viewers back over and over. Recycled news feeds, IMO, are not unique as I can read them on a number of sites. They seem to be there simply to fill in some gaps left by the ads.
Your target market of "anyone who wants information about Wall Street" is too broad to fit the scope of your site- you don't have enough content and there are lots of financial sites that offer a broad spectrum of information about Wall Street.
I would assume if you have built a site about Wall Street that you must know something about Wall Street or financial markets, stockbrokering, or the like. You ought to pick a target- say, new investors who are looking for a guide to help them understand how markets work and then write content to help them. Maybe you pick people who want their information in a hurry and organize the links in a way that is fast and easy for them to check the daily headlines and get to a number of their favorite financial sites.
Your site currently features ads and links to your other sites on the front page that have nothing to do with finance, wall street or the stockmarket. (The cross-linking could get you into trouble with Google- it is very obvious.) Ditch the current home page and add a page where a person can quickly open up windows to other financial sites and check a number of them quickly- that could be useful. Or create a guide for beginners. Or find some other angle (you probably know more about your target audience than I do) that offers something unique to your visitors.
alvarido
30-12-2002, 13:36/01:36PM
Originally posted by scottiecl
Have useful and unique content on your site so people will want to link to your site.
You seem sincere in wanting to know how to improve your site. You need UNIQUE content, not just a bunch of ads, free syndicated news feeds, and links to all your other sites.
A better strategy would be making a useful site that has something to bring viewers back over and over. Recycled news feeds, IMO, are not unique as I can read them on a number of sites. They seem to be there simply to fill in some gaps left by the ads.
Your target market of "anyone who wants information about Wall Street" is too broad to fit the scope of your site- you don't have enough content and there are lots of financial sites that offer a broad spectrum of information about Wall Street.
I would assume if you have built a site about Wall Street that you must know something about Wall Street or financial markets, stockbrokering, or the like. You ought to pick a target- say, new investors who are looking for a guide to help them understand how markets work and then write content to help them. Maybe you pick people who want their information in a hurry and organize the links in a way that is fast and easy for them to check the daily headlines and get to a number of their favorite financial sites.
Your site currently features ads and links to your other sites on the front page that have nothing to do with finance, wall street or the stockmarket. (The cross-linking could get you into trouble with Google- it is very obvious.) Ditch the current home page and add a page where a person can quickly open up windows to other financial sites and check a number of them quickly- that could be useful. Or create a guide for beginners. Or find some other angle (you probably know more about your target audience than I do) that offers something unique to your visitors.
Scottie thank you, you are right about the index page. I need to work on it. The ads that are there now are all web sites that I own and it's bring in about $600.00 a month in profit for me, so you can see the reason I have them there. WallStreet.us is only been up since July of this year and it's all ready in Google page 3 of the keyword wallstreet. I think with the right info on the index page and maybe I can still have the ads down on the page so you see more info when you open your browser to WallStreet.us you only see the info first, what do you think?
WallStreet.us is getting good traffic from other countries, u.k., japan, canada and all of europe. It's also getting traffic from here, but not as much. All the link ins have helped with Google and the link outs also help.
Henry
Blue
30-12-2002, 14:04/02:04PM
ads that are there now are all web sites that I own and it's bring in about $600.00 a month in profit for me, so you can see the reason I have them there. I think Scottie's point was that the ads were off topic. Could you not offer ads that were on topic and still make money?
alvarido
30-12-2002, 16:18/04:18PM
Originally posted by Blue
I think Scottie's point was that the ads were off topic. Could you not offer ads that were on topic and still make money?
I think that with a little more work with the search engines and more good link in's to WallStreet.us I will start making money off the ads from companies in the financial trade. But since it's so new, I think I am about 6 months from getting that. WallStreet.us is one great domain name, i'm getting good traffic just because of the domain name. I do need more good links in from financial web sites.
Henry
maartenvr
30-12-2002, 20:05/08:05PM
The people who find your site in a search engine are looking for wallstreet related content. They are not looking for a key finder or something like that. Sure...you probably get some click throughs but not as many as you could. Why not sign up for an affiliate program related to financing? You will probably have many more clicks. And, If you get such good traffic, you could transfer your $600 into $6000! Visitors expect you to have related content and links to related sites. It turns them off to see unrelated links and will probably click away into cybrspace to never return again...
How do you figure you get such good traffic? Just curious what you define as good traffic. The Alexa info displayed here tells me the opposite!
http://info.alexa.com/data/details?p=TBChrome_T_t_40_L1&amzn_id=alexa65-tb-20&url=http://www.wallstreet.us/Framelogo.htm
alvarido
30-12-2002, 20:24/08:24PM
Originally posted by maartenvr
The people who find your site in a search engine are looking for wallstreet related content. They are not looking for a key finder or something like that. Sure...you probably get some click throughs but not as many as you could. Why not sign up for an affiliate program related to financing? You will probably have many more clicks. And, If you get such good traffic, you could transfer your $600 into $6000! Visitors expect you to have related content and links to related sites. It turns them off to see unrelated links and will probably click away into cybrspace to never return again...
How do you figure you get such good traffic? Just curious what you define as good traffic. The Alexa info displayed here tells me the opposite!
http://info.alexa.com/data/details?p=TBChrome_T_t_40_L1&amzn_id=alexa65-tb-20&url=http://www.wallstreet.us/Framelogo.htm
Good traffic to me is for a new web site only 4 months up to be about 1500 hits and about 150 to 160 visits per day and going up. I have NEVER submited WallStreet.us to any search engine or directory. Will be doing that in two or three months when I add more pages, links and finish the index page. I did do in the first two months many of the affiliate programs from LinkShare and CJ and didn't make a dime. They have very little in the financial side, some loan companies,banks and i think I found only one stock brokerage company. I had put all the banners up and I think that I made 1.50. The As Seen On TV Products I made in Dec 300.00 and the Key Finder from Findit made 350.00. I will keep looking to see if there is better paying financial affiliate programs, but they pay per click .10 and the TV Products pay per sale 20 to 30 percent of the sale and the Findit pays 25% of the sale.
Henry
maartenvr
30-12-2002, 22:57/10:57PM
Many people rave about cj.com. But once you get to work with them many have figured out you get screwed out of a lot of money. Look for a good site with integrity that has a good affiliate program. Should not be too hard to find. Stay away from CJ (Hey that rimes!)
Yes that is not bad traffic after 4 months. By the way, you do not need to submit your website to search engines. Just directories like DMOZ and Yahoo and many more. The search engines will find your site by themself. Don't waiste your money on submissions to thousands of search engines. Just leave your link all over on directories.
alvarido
30-12-2002, 23:21/11:21PM
Originally posted by maartenvr
Many people rave about cj.com. But once you get to work with them many have figured out you get screwed out of a lot of money. Look for a good site with integrity that has a good affiliate program. Should not be too hard to find. Stay away from CJ (Hey that rimes!)
Yes that is not bad traffic after 4 months. By the way, you do not need to submit your website to search engines. Just directories like DMOZ and Yahoo and many more. The search engines will find your site by themself. Don't waiste your money on submissions to thousands of search engines. Just leave your link all over on directories.
Thanks Maarten,
I will look in to finding better affiliate programs, if you know of any please post them for me.
Thanks again,
Henry
http://www.WallStreet.us
maartenvr
30-12-2002, 23:28/11:28PM
sure. here is one:
http://www.4developers.com/ts/index.htm
and here is a list of a bunch of others:
http://www.affiliatesdirectory.com/links/page.cgi?g=business%2Finvestopp%2Fshares%2Findex.shtml
sytemaker
31-12-2002, 03:58/03:58AM
get rid of the frames
alvarido
31-12-2002, 07:48/07:48AM
Originally posted by sytemaker
get rid of the frames
Why?
ihelpyou
31-12-2002, 08:01/08:01AM
Mainly because they are a pain and visitors hate them. :) Also, much harder to achieve good ranks. Can be done but harder. Overall, frames s u c k .... :) IMO anyway.
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