I read all the info and still don't know

[Lead]

Is Inktomi worth the $60 to get your top 3 pages of your web site indexed with them for a year?

I haven't seen much compelling information either way.

Have many people had good results with it?

Thanks,
Lead :hi:

[ihelpyou]

I have never paid for a page Lead so I cannot help you. Others here swear by it so I guess it can help.

I simply get in for free without paying.

[Mel]

Hi Lead and welcome to the forums

Positiontech will do just what they say they will do - get your pages spidered every 48 hours and guaranteed in the index for one year. Inktomi will not spider other pages not paid for.

IF your pages are well optimized, you might get good rankings from Inktomis pay for inclusion program, but arguably the most traffic potential will come from MSN. In order to rank well with MSN you really need a Looksmart listing, but once you have that listing Inktomi will pick up all your pages within a month.

So I would say get the LS listing (I know its expensive) and let that be your entry into Inktomi

[JuniorHarris]

If you are targeting competitive keywords, then by all means Looksmart is a must to rank well on MSN.

An interesting approach may be to leverage Looksmart for your home page (likely most competitive) and use PositionTech (http://www.positiontech.com) for more specific and targeted keyword phrases (where there are few if any LookSmart listings). The great thing about PT now, is you have unlimited number of URL substitutions...so not only do you get 48 hour tweaks to adjust the code, but you could also simply cycle a few URLs until you find one which performs well!~ ;)

[Lead]

I like this site. Everyone is helpful.
I am still questioning the need to pay them $60
But if it makes me just One Sale a year it will pay for itself.

Thanks,
Lead :hi:

[Rachel]

Hi Lead,

In reply to your question.

Using some free add url processes at the major search engines, it takes ages (sometimes months) to get your pages indexed. But even then how can you manage those pages you have submitted. Do you just keep using terms off the top off your head or input your URL into a search engine to see if you are there? (A bit time consuming for me and not much for real info on what surfers are doing to find me)

I am registered to Search/Submit and I have submitted my mother's immigration site. I can manage my pages when I want to. I can see what search terms people are looking for. I've even found that some people are searching for her site deeper than just the first page. (she's near the top for most)

She is also getting distributed to 50 search partners and portals, yes it may be secondary in some places, but for AOL, MSN and hotbot she is near the top, between 1-4) But, this could be because I've had her head tags looked at. But still better than SEO places offering submission to 1550 places and not seeing 48 hour results??

For a year? Well, you can substitute a URL. My mother's site is hosted by an ISP, but she wants me to set up her own domain. A pretty good feature to be able to edit URLs over the year.

So really it depends on what you are looking for...

Rachel,
ineedhits.com :cheers:

[MakeMeTop]

For what it is worth, I use paid inclusion a lot and have a couple of hundred pages from various sites in the program. I wouldn't do it if it didn't work for me but keyphrase research is vital to get the best from it. I use paid inclusion in conjunction with LS listings to get a broad spread of focussed terms to come up on MSN etc and can get very good traffic from it. However it may not suit all - and you can get in for free if you are willing to wait. Just get links to your site from another site in their 'best of web' web map and you will get listed - in time.

[ihelpyou]

Welcome to the forums Rachel! :hi:

You should make up a signature file for each post you make.

[Blue]

:hi:

[Brian]

Hi Lead,

I have been lurking around these forums for a while and thought it was time I added some input :)

I think you may have answered your question yourself... if it makes you just one sale, it will pay its way!

I have many web sites and have now paid for most of them in the Inktomi Search/Submit program. To tell you the truth I love the program and believe it is definitely worth the cost!

Especially once you get in to the $12 per URL price!

It must be my imagination as it is not a pay for placement program, but I do seem to be gaining extremely good rankings with the program. As mentioned in one of the posts above, you can substitute your URLs if you find some of them don't place well.

I have accounts will all of the Inktomi Partners except for Outrider. So I have accounts at ineedhits, positiontech and Verisign.

PositionTech (http://www.positiontech.om) is the oldest partner and from my point of view have not bothered updating their program for some time.
ineedhits (http://ink.ineedhits.com) is the new kids on the block and I am impressed! Their account management section is excellent, and their click-thru reporting has some cool features... they even have an xml feed for advanced users.

Verisign are extremely hard to use.

So in answer to your question. If your site is a business site, then I believe it is worth paying the money for inclusion in Inktomi.

Cheers,
Brian :cheers:

[Rachel]

Thanks for the welcome,

There has been a discussion on LS for titles and Position Tech for targeting of keyword phrases. This is a good combination. Also, to leverage you might want to do some research and find out how popular the search terms are you want to use and how saturated the results are for these terms. As the task is in attracting qualified traffic from the search results and being able to see that conversion in dollars for some sites and traffic for others. In essence, words and where you are placed needs market info as a leverage guide as well :eyes:

For eg. your site might come up 50th under migration visas, but come up number one in various portals under immigration western australia... (meaning that you are getting real people wanting to come to Western Australia exposed to your site on immigrating to Western Australia, than just the broad term 'migration visas' who attract people looking for all sorts of countries to migrate to and the odds of these people after Western Australia is more and more unknown).

Also in reponse to 'unlimited number of URL submissions',

A common feature of Inktomi's paid inclusion program with all the partners is that they allow you to edit and substitute URLs for the year, I am definite (obviously) that we provide for it too, but we were thinking of keeping any changes domain specific initially, but decided our customers would not abuse the feature. As long as this feature it's not abused it will be around for a while.

Thanks for the opportunity to respond.
Hi Doug, have noted to have a signature...:bouncy:

[Mel]

HI Rachael and welcome to the forums.

I agree with you entirely on the subject of selective use of Inktomi paid submission to plug gaps you find in your seo results. The fact that you can tweak your page and see results in 48 hours appels to me.

I have not had an opportunity to use your version of INK paid inclusion, but have heard some good comments.

[ihelpyou]

Welcome to the forums Brian! :hi:

Thanks for the good info!

Rachel.... I think we are the only forums to allow signatures.. :cool:

[Brian]

ihelpyou... thank you for the welcome. You run a great site!

Rachel... it seems as though you work for ineedhits, if so well done on the site/service!

- Brian :thumb:

[ihelpyou]

Thanks Brian. Great avatar! :)

[Rachel]

Howdy,

Brian welcome nice to see a customer and glad to hear your satisfaction, look forward to any questions from you. :hi:

Doug, great to be able to have signatures, definitely adds a degree of credibility to forum members :up:

Hi Mel, our version focuses on user experience. Only if you feel like it (or I suppose I could organize a guest account), you can see how many search terms people are clicking on to get straight to your site and how deep they are getting to find you. Really, this is what Inktomi provides their partners with, then it's up to how the partner wishes to present it (click-thrus) But we handle the experience....Our target audience just happens to need lots of explanations given our customer base and the type qualified traffic we receive.

So, what ineedhits.com allows you to do is: 1. Pull up a report in either a summary format or a fromat where you can view daily. 2. For the advanced webmaster, you can download a XML feed from us into an excel format or database etc.

3. To also see how effective Inktomi's click-thru reports are you can click on our icons from MSN, Hotbot and AOL to really see for yourself your site's listing. To plug Inktomi's click-thrus, this is unprecented from any search engine currently, even if it's not completely giving every single click count (hopefully it may eventually over time) it is giving you real time information and connecting you with your qualified visitors.

filling the gaps - yes, yes, yes! :bouncy:

[JuniorHarris]

Welcome Brian and Rachel!~ :hi:

[Blue]

:hi:

[Brian]

Thank you all for your welcomes :)