Google Dance For May 2003... when is it going to end?

[2rip]

Google Dance For May 2003... when is it going to end? Or, has it ?

I ask this because when I go to http://www.fm-transmitter.com/google-dance/. The results on www2 and www3 are the same. But, the www still shows lasts months results.

Can or will anyone help this newbie better understand what is going on?

Thnx,

2Rip

[ihelpyou]

Nothing is going on. Just the dance that is not over yet. It's just longer than usual as they are tweaking and testing, etc. Patience is the key. :)

[3rd eye]

A lot people think that the real dance has not even started this month yet.

[esavvy]

Not sure if this will shed any light - or add any information you don't already know.

The google dance was quite different this month - as a new algorithm was launched. Although, they are always changing thier algorithms - this month seems to bring a major change.

I believe that is why the "dance" started earlier this month than I would have expected based on when it started last month.

My guess is that the results will show up consistently on google on Friday (a day or two after I would have guessed that the dance would start)

[3rd eye]

My guess is we will see a real dance very shortly, that will be applied to this new algorithm.

[tyler_durden]

I've read so many posts in different message boards with people freaking out about this update. My take on it is that this isn't the actual update, but some testing/tweaking of some new algorithms. The current depcrawl data is not in there yet I think, because my title in all data centers are old. I changed it days before the deepcrawl, thanks to Doug's suggestions. Thanks again Doug.

Anyway, people need to remember that 99%+ of people that use google, know nothing about www2, www3, or the other data centers. It's only SEO's that really care. I assume these are google's in-house test areas, etc. and what we are seeing are their testing and tweaking of algo's. If you look at the date of last months update, and then the date of this so called update starting a week or 2 ago, it was waaay too early for the actual update to start. I would guess sometime this week it will start.

this is just my 2 cents...

[ihelpyou]

Well, I'm a SEO and I could care less about it. No one has control over what is happening or the outcome so why fret and stress over it? Waiting until it's completely over is the ticket. All of this hanky-panky beforehand does no good at all and only serves to raise the blood pressures of those who stress.

[Perfection]

Even 'afterhand' it makes no sense to complain and stress over it. Google won't change things just because SEO #3489-22A isn't happy. However, I could at least somewhat understand how you may be unhappy with the results and want to "discuss" it after an update. But what is happening now on "other forums" should be filmed and shown to a qualified medical staff.

Google could change it's domain name to www.your-backlinks-will-come-back-gradually-over-time-so-dont-worry.com and there will still be 12,000 posts from people complaining and wondering about where their backlinks are.

[ihelpyou]

:green:

[Kots]

I couldn't agree more with the stressing out and going crazy over the dance is just a waste of time.

However, no disrespect meant at all Doug, but isn't SEO in general based on and founded on researching the SE's. If nobody followed the dance how could we learn what the SEs are doing in order to stay with the game?

It seems to me that going crazy about your sites going up and down throughout the dance is a waste of time. But following the datacenters each month and reseaching and studying trends in the dance can only benefit the industry.

Anyone else agree?

[ihelpyou]

You can do the same thing when the dance is over and with zero stress involved. Agreed?

Then you know everything and are not guessing and speculating. Doing that during the dance is not helping anyone imo.

[OptWizard]

I agree with your logic Kots I does help you learn

[ihelpyou]

Learn what? Explain to me what you learn during a dance since things that are happening during a dance are not what they seem?

Would you not be better off doing your analyzing when the dance is complete?

Sorry, someone clue me in about what could possibly be learned during a dance that cannot be learned in it's entirety after the dance.

[dvduval]

I agree, Doug.
WWW2 should have a message at the top that reads, "Nothing to see here. Move along please."
Analysis should begin when we see results on WWW.

[Kots]

I see your point but for instance, how would anyone in this forum know right now that they're testing a new algor if we didn't watch the servers?

Getting ahead of the game is what im saying, how do u get ahead when u just sit back and wait is all im sayin. If I was paying you the dollars for optimizing my site, i would want someone who is actively trying to figure out whats going on, do i make sense at all here or am i just crazy?

[ihelpyou]

Testing a new algo?

They change up the algo each and every month... albeit very small in some months. Why do you need to know the algo anyhoo?

Besides, you said 'testing'. How many times do you think 'that' algo will change before it's brought live to www? So what good does it do you to follow this "test" algo when it ain't what is going to be the final until it reaches the www?

Do you see? :)

Personally, I could care less about a new algo. I don't follow an algo nor do I try to figure it out and my clients do just dandy month after month after month.

[OptWizard]

Algo is a big part. How can you say it is not. If you can not figure out what google is bassing its rankings on then what is the point of optimizing

[ihelpyou]

Again, I don't care about any silly algo change in any particular month. Never have, never will. Period.

Many others take my same attitude and do real well as well.

[Net Wizard]

I agree with Doug, minor algo changes, I don't bother. Content is still the #1 priority.

I prefer adding more content and functionality as oppose to tweaking each page everytime there is a slight fluctuation in the ranking.

[Kots]

Well by watching the servers and reading up in other forums where the dance is discussed more openly, no disrespect, it seems that there is a good chance that google may rotate or flip datacenters and fluctuate the top results as part of their new change. There's speculation that there may be 8 to 10 updates now instead of just one, this just theory of course, but i think it makes sense.

Either way, my point is, the current logic of waiting til the dance is over might be out the window, huh? Or at least you wont be waitng much. heheh :D

[ihelpyou]

Yes, people love to stress at other places. I personally see no need for the stress as I saw ALL the new changes coming. New spam filters will be incorporated "over time". New stuff, new changes over time. It will be different. No need to stress right now.